Workshop - Way Of Power - Part 2 - Daytona Beach Fl. - Workshop April-84

So a person could misuse anything. Like somebody’s always trying to control weapons, and they should outlaw them because somebody used one to commit a crime, but they use knives to commit crimes and you don’t outlaw knives, and, uh, I wouldn’t want to outlaw anything because I don’t care what it is, somebody could use it to destroy. People can take a car and use it as a weapon. People can use a house as a weapon. They can use their hands as weapons, they can also use their hands for healing and comforting. But you can also use them for weapons. So I think anything can be misused, but there’s nothing inherent in it that would make it be wrong. Okay? I don’t know what’s right and wrong, but what would be determental to anybody.

How about let’s take a lunch break for a couple of hours and eat and drink coffee and let the lower part of the body round out again (laughter) flat chairs… and we’ll start at two o’clock and we’ll talk about something till we run out of something to talk about and then we’ll talk a little more. Okay? Have a nice, nice lunch break.

608 Start off again, and there are any number of subjects that I could talk about—they all say the same thing, but I expect different ways. […] Why not… […the one that sounds, push it up Bob. The one , just hit one, that’s it… ] You have to put the stop and then you… now the pause is down, you don’t want it down. You want record. There it is.

618 Does anyone have something they want to talk about? I said I’ll talk about anything. I’ll make it turn out the subject, your subject into my way anyway.
[I have one question. In the tape series you sometimes allude to the development of a spiritual body. How does that fit in with the diagram of the picture?]
That’s the one without the first one. So we’ll do it. I like that one, that’s a good one.

We said this morning that everybody, that you ask them what they want to do, or they’re dissatisfied, they want to—they want to do something creative. You ever hear that? Did anybody ever tell you that? Or have you said it yourself? “I just want to do something creative.” Well, what you want to create has nothing to do with paintings and building houses and all that as much as those are nice and essential. What you really want to do is create what sometimes is called a spiritual body. 633  , CREATING A SPIRITUAL BODY. Now a spiritual body is a frame of reference. Now this morning we called the little picture—I’ll make a miniature over here—this essentially is the person’s frame of references—it’s plural. There is at least two of them in there, one going this way and one going that way, which creates conflict, and both of those are in conflict with the intellect that kind of knows how to do a lot of things. You know an intellect’s a pretty useful device to have, we’re in a mess if we don’t have one.

So, to create a spiritual body is to have a frame of reference that one has consciously chosen, every step in it, and has made it.

Some of you may have a pretty little piece of parchment-like paper that says “Transformation” on it. The Transformation Chart shows essentially the direction of having a spiritual body, a new one. Well, first this stuff’s got to go. You have to see that that is not to your advantage, that it is not true any more, it was true for an infant. An infant couldn’t survive without some of those things. But if we are all more than four years old in here, I believe. We’re all a little over four. Because none of them work any more, so they are a determent, they are in conflict. And they are a very limiting thing to have. They limit us in every aspect of our existence.

So to come up with a frame of reference that one could consciously choose would mean to have this all clear, and with certain information that one has consciously checked out, chosen, and doing. So I will give a pointer here if I may as to somewheres the way to approach building a spiritual body, which in the old days they called building a soul, I believe. Certain words I don’t use because there is so many ways of using it, a given word. Soul for instance has hundreds of meanings and so I won’t use it. So we’ll call it a spiritual body. And that is something permanent.

So let’s start with four questions. What am I? Where am I? 675 What’s going on here? What can I do? We considered these as essential valid questions.
(aside about noise)

What can I do? Now all of these questions are things that I don’t think many people ever ask themselves. What am I?

687 You know, we think we already know. All the things we think we know is possibly the big obstruction to us finding out anything really new.

To be really liberated is that we already know it. We already know what we are, the only thing is you’ll find that if you don’t have this little sentence written down you’ll be saying “Who am I?” before the week’s over. And who you are is whatever name you’ve got that you’re using this week and so forth and so on. It doesn’t matter, you can change them every few days. I have friends that change their names ever, frequently.

The next one is where am I? Well, we’re in Daytona Beach, Florida or somewhere in that area and so on. That’s not quite what we’re talking about. What’s going on here, we’re having a little discussdion this afternoon. And what can I do is sit and act quiet. We could go on with these for a while. So we’ll try a different set of answers to them, because they’re concerning the real being. What am I? If we choose to look a bit we can see possibly that none of us made any conscious that we can recall of to be here. Did you make any special arrangement to be here Fred? [Not that I know of.] Bought a ticket or anything like that? [If I did I…] Did you get a season ticket or anything of the sort? [No.] Just here, is that it? But it is quite an experience, to say the least. No matter how much we gum it up it’s still quite a show that I wouldn’t have wanted to miss, it beats anything DisneyWorld’s got. Is that right? I wouldn’t want to miss it.
So what am I? If we look at it a bit, we arrived in this world as we said this morning broke, helpless, naked, nobody, nothing, and we found everything that we might need was already here. Transportation lines set up to get food from all over the world. Clothing was there, a couple of slaves provided for us. The whole works, is that right? So could you say without fear of being contridicted very much that you’re a privileged invited guest. Never thought of that, hmm? You are a guest here. You were invited and found it well equipped. Is that right? [True enough.] There was housing, there was food, there was clothes for you, even though you got here with nothing. Right? And it all belongs here. Because I’ve noticed some very wealthy guys, the ones that accumulated all the stuff laying around the place—when they leave they don’t get to take a thing with them, is that right? So the stuff all belongs here. So what am I? I’m a privileged invited guest. I’m free to use all this stuff here, everything. And obviously I’m a guest because I didn’t do nothing to get here. And I found I’m really taken care of. You know, the ham’s sitting out on the table, the doughnuts all over the place, the coffee maker’s there, and everything. …down there, and there’s a bed laying there for me, and you know, a bird singing

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…come out and say how you stand this? But I see it as being very beautiful and if they stay awhile they will. I come here and fantastically beautiful, the green trees, the ocean and all that kind of stuff. I go to California, there’s there, I go to Canada, there’s mountains, and all sorts of other things. I go out in the Midwest and there’s broad expanse of fields that’s beautiful. And it has everything we could possibly want in it, is that right? And you can use it. Is that right? I can sit and look at a mountain all day and the beauty of it, or the ocean, I don’t have to pay admission, the Host put it all there for me. I can use it, right? So where am I? I am at a beautiful planet Earth where Life is the Host. Did you ever think of that? Life’s the host. It set it all here for you. Set everything up for you. Invited you and gave you life that you could be its companion while you came to visit.

009 All right? Now what’s going on here? Now that’s fairly easy to figure out. When you see, look around, you see there’s great gobs of people out here and they’re all playing some kind of game.  Some of them are playing three or four games. Some of them playing traffic games, some of them playing war games, some of them play marriage games, some of them play business games, some of them play hockey, some of them play baseball, some of them play broadcasting, some of them play music. Everybody’s playing games, is that right? So if you see a lot of people around all playing games you figure there was a big old party going on, right? So, what’s going on here? There’s a big party going on that all us as privileged invited guests are attending.   Since I’ve been at the party I’ve been provided--and you follow along and let’s see if you have--with food, clothing, shelter, transportation, interesting things to do, interesting other guests to associate with and play with, and some of them to be real companion with now and then. Right? Got all that? You had a cabana to live in ever since you got here. Food, clothing, shelter, transportation, interesting things to do, interesting other guests, and you can play any games you want to. Is that right?

Okay, then it’s fairly easy to answer these questions then if you observe, you’re beginning to have a whole different view of looking at you and the world you live in and the other people. You know I’ve heard people say there couldn’t be any God because if he did he’d never allow wars. Well, if some of his guests want to play war games I’d have to say he said let `em play, you know, that’s their business. Looks to me like. Is that right? You want to play music, who’s to say you shouldn’t play music? Huh?

[Nobody said anything about that.]

Nobody said a thing in the world about it. So if you want to play war games, go play war games, I don’t care. It don’t look like there’s any … there… (unintelligible). So everybody’s doing their thing.

Now, that answers the questions simply and easily and I can have me a whole frame of reference out of this next question. What can I do? Now I can have my whole frame of reference, it will change everything in my existence and I won’t have a lot of claptrap and clutter to have to worry with in my head all the time. If I’m a privileged invited guest at this beautiful estate called earth and they’re having this big party, then obviously what I can do is be what to me is a good guest. Now I’m a guest over in Marsha’s pad and I would not think of doing anything other than what to me would be a good guest. Hmm? I’m not going to rub my cigarette butts out in the middle of the carpet, and I’m not going to pull the bird’s feathers out of his tail to see what they look like. Huh? I’m not going to make any messes and throw garbage on the floor. Hmm? Just be what to me is a good guest. No effort, I don’t even have to think about it. Right? You can be a guest somewhere, you don’t even have to think about it. Because you’re already doing what to you is a good guest as long as you know you’re a guest there, is that right? Huh? That correct? [I should think so.] You don’t have to think about it, do you? When you’re a guest at somebody’s home, in one of the other guest’s cabana, why, you behave as a guest. We don’t even have to even think about it, do you.

So I’m a privileged, invited guest. Well, that’s fairly easy. What would a good guest do? One, he’d be considerate, of the host, of the estate, and the other guests, is that right? He’d be considerate of them. The host, the other guests, and the estate, is that right? That’s simple to do, don’t go out and make a big mess, and treat the other guests that’s around nice as I can. Don’t have to worry about it, or I should do it or I ought to, it just comes as natural as breathing, doesn’t it? Huh? It comes natural as breathing. Considerate.

And I’m going to be as harmless as possible. There’s only two ways I know to be real harmful. One is to commit physical violence on somebody, and the other is to agree that they’re a victim. Everybody’s trying to tell you they’re a victim of this and a victim of that, and a victim of the other thing. Now I won’t agree with anybody that they’re a victim of nothing, period. And I’m not going around and clobber you with a hammer or shoot you, or throw rocks at you, or kick the crutches out from under you or any of those things. You know. There’s no reason to. Huh? There’s plenty of room, the host’s made you room, made me room, even if they got more here than they can feed. (?)

So, on the other thing, I’m probably in somebody’s way quite often, no doubt. You know, that’s the only way. But I don’t think that’s harmful. You know, I get in your way when I get in front of you at the cash register, checkout at the grocery store, or I get in front of you at the cafeteria line, or I get in front of you in the airplane loading line, or something like that. So what, it’ll go away in a minute. I don’t see that that’s harmful. And I’ll let you have my place in line any time you want it, all you got to do is tell me you need it, you can have it, I don’t care. Plane ain’t going to leave till I go anyway. Right?

Considerate, harmless as I can be, and don’t claim I’ll be a hundred percent harmless, but I’m not going to commit physical violence on you and I’m not going to agree with you that you’re a victim. If you want to tell me you’re a victim of something I’ll make purring sounds, but I won’t agree with you.
And the other thing is I will make some little contribution. Now a contribution is not to take over the whole thing, you understand, a contribution is a miniscule little part, right? Contribution. So at a party I like to make a little contribution to the party. And there’s one thing I’ve found that I can always contribute, no matter what the circumstances or anything else. I can contribute to a pleasant, harmonious mood. I didn’t say I could make one. Sometimes there’s a bunch of fussy old bitches over there and they’re playing their game of fighting and I can just flap a little bit, or something, make light of their stories or what have you. But I can always contribute, at least contribute, to a pleasant harmonious mood. And a harmonious mood is highly contagious so somebody else is liable to catch it before long anyway, and it usually gets all straightened up in a few minutes. Right?

Now do you think anybody would ever interfere with you doing that? [noise. I think sometimes.] Nobody has ever! I’ve been doing it for almost thirty years now and nobody has even caught on to what I was doing, much less interfere with it. [Oh, you didn’t tell us! (laughter)] No, I don’t tell anybody. That’s my business. What can I do? I can be what to me is a good guest and to me what being a good guest is that I can make a little contribution to a pleasant harmonious mood wherever I am. Look, I don’t tell everybody, Look, I’m going to contribute to a mood when I get in here (laughter) No way, no way. I just do it.

So, you know that all the other work we do we have some kind of second force. Some resistance to about everything we do. This way you live without any second force from your purpose. There'’ nobody interfering with it. [Could you say that again?] Practically everything that we do, there'’ always some resistance to it—we call it second force. There’s initiative, resistance, form and result in everything. But when you’re being what to you is a good guest, there’s nobody resisting you. You have no resistance to your efforts to your purpose in living. Now my whole purpose in living is to be what to me is a good guest. Now if I’m working in a business I’m still going to operate it as what to me is being a good guest. In other words, I’m making a little contribution, I’ve got something that somebody else wants and I’m ready to contribute and we see that they have a good time while we do it. We contribute to a good mood wherever we may be. If I’m going to sit here and talk today, I’m going to try to see if we have a pretty good mood. Has your mood been passable around today? Mine’s been all right and I contribute to it. Now if you want to sit there and pffffft! You can do it, don’t matter to me. But I’m going to contribute to a pleasant mood. And nobody interferes with your purpose then. Nobody at cross-purposes to you, can you see that? Nobody’s going to interfere with your being what to you is a good guest.

Now you don’t have to stop and wonder what you should do, you don’t have any rights and wrongs and goods and bads, you have nothing to feel guilty about, you have nothing to struggle with, you have nobody to get even with, you have nobody to compete with, you’re just doing what to you is a good guest.
Now you have a whole new frame of reference, you’re one individual inside, you’re no longer in conflict, you no longer have an anxiety because there isn’t anything to be anxious about. I’m just being what to me is a good guest this moment. So there’s nothing to fight about, worry about, nothing to be all upset about, okay?

So here is a purpose and a new frame of reference. Now, it’s not the only frame of reference, I’ve just given you a for instance. And I’m sharing with you it’s the one I use and you no doubt could make any kind of frame of reference you want. I’m just showing you an easy one. I’m as lazy as the day is long and I don’t have to struggle and I don’t want to have to philosophy and I don’t have to be constantly be thinking and meditating and all this jazz. It’s just something I can do easy. And I can be what to me is a good guest without all that sweat and bother. And there is no conflict, no struggle, no resistance in it.

Now the only human problem is conflict. And if you’re in a conflict then you start struggling to get out of it, and you resist all sorts of things coming along. So conflict struggle and resistance, which is all the same stuff, that’s resisting whatever’s going on, you have nothing but conflicts, struggle and resistance, that’s the disintegrating. When you’re being what to you is a good guest it’s all ended. All conflict’s gone, all struggle’s gone, all resistance is gone. Okay? Now that is the simple and easy and direct approach to being what’s called integrated, having a new frame of reference, being born all over again, having a whole new existence, the whole bit, whatever words you want to use. That’s the simple and easy one. Now, that’s pretty simple isn’t it? You’ve got to have something more ;complicated than that, obviously.

So, we’ll get it as complicated as you want it, but when you get all done with it, you come back to this after a while and that’s simple and easy. That’s something even you and I can do, right? Us old codgers can do that. Even old and decrepit as we are, we can do that. Easiest thing in the world. No bother, no fret.

[So if you were in a situation, a Not-I got a hold of you and you were angry with somebody, or they weren’t doing it rightly or whatever] Doing it my way [Right.] The right way. [And then all of a sudden you saw you were doing that, you could say, whoops, what am I reporting…] Ooooh, I’m sound asleep, I’d better wake up. [Then you can change it around and say…] instantaneously and say look, I just had a nightmare there, I’m awake now, I’m going on and be what to me is a good guest and take off. [Okay, and if you’re by yourself, and you notice that a Not-I’s gotten you, then you could just] Well I’m going to be a good guest in my place too! [To myself like] You better believe, I got to live with me. Yes, sir?

[Shouldn’t there be something added to that a proper… (?) or being thankful?] I think the only way to be thankful is to be what to me was a good guest. You better believe it. I’m very thankful to be at this party and the way I can express my thanks is being what to me is a good guest. Consciously being what I am, you see. Most people, instead of being thankful are fretting because they didn’t have a bigger cabana or more pieces to accumulate, or they didn’t give them a bigger chair to ride around the estate on and all that kind of stuff, is that right? I’m very thankful for everything I have. And I want to say thank you by making some little contribution to the party. I think making the contribution is better than just the words. Yeah, I know lots of people say thank you, thank you, thank you, and then the next breath they’re complaining because they don’t have this, don’t have the other thing and so forth.

All the little tapes just popped. (laughter) Do you want to turn them over or leave them be? Leave them be, they got everything on them they need on them anyway.

So, uh, yes, I think very definitely, when you recognize what you are, where you are, what’s going on here, you would have to have an inner feeling of gratitude and thanksgiving. And I want to express that thanks and the way I do it is try to make some little contribution. And there’s many little contributions I can make, I can relieve headaches, bellyaches, backaches, uh, I can get people laughing when they was crying and fussing and being low, you know, people say they’re in the pit, they’re all depressed, and I can usually have them laughing in a few minutes. But the greatest thing that I think I can do any time and all day long any day of the week is to contribute to a pleasant, harmonious mood wherever I may be. And regardless of how I might be feeling. If I got a bellyache I don’t have to tell everybody in the world I’ve got a bellyache. It won’t hurt any worse if I keep it to myself. And I can contribute to a pleasant mood while I got it, it usually goes away pretty fast anyway. And I don’t see any reason to see how much I can accumulate. A few years ago we had the episode of Howard Hughes, H.L. Hunt and what’s the guy—J. Paul Getty and John McArthur, all who were multi, multi, multi millionaires, all died somewheres along pretty close together. And you know there wasn’t a one of those guys who could take all that stuff they accumulated up. It says in some of the great books that everything, the creator made the earth and all its furniture. So this stuff we play with is all of its furniture, you know, the coins, the silver, the gold, the paintings are all furniture, and they belong to the estate. And we’re privileged to use them and enjoy them all we want to, but it doesn’t make sense to gather them all up and put it in your pocket. Now I’ve been treated royally here, everything in the house is “Here, Bob, you use it,” you know, the bedroom, the bathroom, the kitchen, the dining room, but I’m sure if I went over and started gathering up a bunch of stuff and putting it in my pocket (laughter) put it over here, put it over here, Bob and Betty would kind of wonder what are you doing that for? They’d probably be, as polite and gracious as they are, they wouldn’t say anything about it until I was about ready to go out the door, and then they would be very gracious and say Bob you can put the silver over here and the … over here, and I would leave them here. And so all these guys left all the things they had laboriously accumulated, they left it here. And we can go on and use it, and when we get through with it, we’ll leave it, no matter if we’ve accumulated it all up and called it “mine,” it’s not going to make any difference. I don’t see any reason to bother to own it as long as I can use it anyway. Do you? [No, I’ve thought about that quite a bit.] You know, why should I own it if I can use it? I get on an airplane and fly across the country. And I get off and I’m all through with it. If I owned the thing I got to pay a jillion dollars to park it, I got to pay maintenance, Good Lord. I don’t want to own that friggin airplane, I just want to use it once in a while. That’s all. Been in the airplane business last year for a while, I found out real quick, that’s one thing I sure don’t want. That’s worse than having an albatross hung around your neck. I don’t want one of those things. I had a boat once, that’s another thing you don’t want to own. Just going to use it, let it alone, let the other guy own it. Fine, belongs to the state.

Now, if you really want to feel thankful, you read some of the ancient books and you see how come that we got invited to this party. Now I wasn’t even supposed to be invited. That’s the funny part of it. There’s a story tells that, uh, illustrates the point. You know, most teaching in the world that’s really worthwhile is transmitted by stories.

The story is that there was a great man, which represents the host of this big party, decided to give a party one night. And so he invited all of his equals. And fine, they’d come. And so on the day that the party was due, he sent his couriers out running to each one of them’s house and saying, Feast is ready, come on over to the party. So one guy said, well I can’t come, I just bought a new John Deere tractor and I got to try it out. Another one said I just got married, I got to take my wife on a honeymoon. Another said I can’t come, my old father died and I got to arrange the funeral. Another said I just bought a farm I got to go out and check it out. Have a survey made on it. Well, without exception they all gave an excuse. And these couriers came back and told the great man who was putting on the feast, this big party, nobody was coming. And it says in the story that the great man got very wrought up, which I think means, in our terminology, very pissed off. (laughter) and so he sent them out and he said you go out in the alleys and you go out in the hedgerows and you go out in the lanes and you go out in the back alleys and you get those down in skid row, and you get all those people and you bring them in, my house is going to be filled. That'’ us folks, that’s how we even got here. So we’re double thankful you see. If those other people had come we’d have never got invited to the party. Hmm? So we’re here. So man we’ve got every reason to be thankful. So we act a little bummy from our ancestors, so what.
[Are you saying, uh, are you saying we got invited to the party because we accepted the invitation?] No, they drug us in, we may have been half drunk, knocked out, he said bring them in, drag them in, bring them in anyway! [Now I got it.] Bring them in, those other jerks didn’t come, you know. A friend of my associates, my equals, they wouldn’t come, they all had excuses, they wouldn’t come. [who were they and where’d they go? I want to know.] Huh? Who were they? [And where did they go?] Well, I imagine one of them ran a planet Mars, one run a planet Venus, one run, and they’re probably out there wishing they’d have come to the party. I don’t know, honey, I didn’t follow the story, except what they give me the story part of it. Reading the story you don’t say what would happen if I’d written the story, I was told about these other jerks. No, they just didn’t come.

So now we can have a new frame of reference, or a spiritual body. Something that would determine our every means of how we relate to every other person that we would come by, how we going to do it? I can do it very simply. I’m just doing what to me is a good guest. Any of you had any static with me? Had any static? Ever run over you, stomped your toes or anything? Huh? It’s easy enough to get along with anybody that’s just being a good guest, did you ever notice that? You don’t have any flack, you don’t have to think about what you should do, what you should say. You just contributing to a pleasant mood. You’re not trying to straighten things out, you’re not trying to save the world. You know, it looks like it’s in very good hands as far as I can see. The host looks like he knows what he’s doing, I see all kinds of people that think they ought to save the world. Did you ever run into one of those? (laughter) [A lot of them. I even did myself.] I think the host knows—I know you did—the host kinds of knows what its doing, it’s set up a good party and letting everybody doing what they want to do, want to play war games, play war games, you want to play property games, play property games. You want to play cops and robbers, go to it. Who cares? You want to play robber, beggar-man, thief, it don’t make any difference, the host loves you all anyway. He loves all the kids. And they want to play a game, he don’t argue about it, let them play, he’ll even come play their games to the best of their ability. Whatever they say they want to do, he does it. You know, you say you want to rob a bank, that’s what you report, he’ll rob that friggin bank. (laughter) That’s the only way you can move your hand is to get out there.

So you see, it’s all a game. But we don’t think of it as games, we think of it as so real. But that’s the way we were conditioned, you know, everything is serious, dead serious. And at a party nothing’s serious. It’s all having a good time. Is that right? Huh? It’s enjoying, it’s contributing. When I’m invited to somebody’s little party, I happen to like to cook, and I’m halfway good at it, and so I usually wind up in the kitchen, contributing a little bit to the cooking bit. I like to. Uh, I can help clean up the kitchen, I know how to do that. Some of the other guests got a headache, I usually know how to relieve the headache, so I take care of that. I’m always doing all of that for the host at this particular party. So everything I do is for the host. My way of saying thank you for having been invited to this beautiful, beautiful party. Which I’m very thankful I didn’t get passed over.

Now I notice if you start being a poor guest, you might get sent away. And so, I like being what to me is a good guest, maybe they won’t think of running me off too quick. I like it here at the party. I don’t know of a thing I would change about it. Now that’s what gives you contentment or peace of mind, when there isn’t anything you’ve got to change in order for you to get along…

So, uh, can you think of anything you’ve got to have changed before you could be happy? (laughter) I know who’s… could you tell me a couple of them? What needs to be changed? [unintelligible] …six years? [No, um, I, I, understand what you’re talking about, I just had a couple of Not-I’s there.]

266   Well, as long as you’re trying to please Not-I’s instead of seeing what you can do, you will have them. They only are there as long as you give them housing.

[They found a home! (laughter)] They found a home, and uh, they’re having a joy at your expense. (laughter) They’re having a good banquet at your expense. But now if you didn’t want them there, all you’ve got to do is to say I’m totally free to experience whatever may arise in my way today. And you’re going to experience it, so you might as well do it freely and gracefully instead of kicking and screaming. Is that right? [Easier said than done.] No, it’s not. It’s easier done than it is to put it off. Much easier. You see, we get obsessed with the idea that things have to be different before I could be happy, or whatever it is. I don’t know what the word happy is, I’m not really sure I know what it means. I know that I don’t know of anything I think has to be changed for me to get along well. It’s all right.

And there is a little approach that we give everybody as something to remember is that you’re going to experience whatever’s happening, because you are an experiencing organism, period. Okay? And if it comes this hurricane down the street you’re going to experience it, right? And if there ;is some obnoxious soul that comes along and behaves very crudely and rudely, you’re going to experience it, is that right? And if there is a saintly soul that comes along and is all smiles and happy, you’ll experience that. So let’s experience freely. You’re going to experience it, you might as well do it freely, without resistance you know. There’s no use resisting what you’re going, what’s happening. And there really isn’t anything terrible happening. You’re all right right now no matter what.

[unintelligible] No, I think not. I think you could experience freely anything you so choose if your purpose was to be what to you was a good guest. I have nothing that I feel at any time that I must repress, hold back or not say. A friend and I went into a lady’s restaurant not long ago, if you could call it that, anyway, she has a menu and sells what she calls food. So, when we got through, she said, Dr. Bob, how did you like it? I said, Honey, it was simply atrocious. And I gave it with a smile and patted her on the back and went out the door and thanked her for being there, and she thought I was wonderful. We got outside, the man said, why did you talk to her that way. I said well I hope maybe she’ll catch on and quit trying to cook. (laughter) It’s a shame to mess up perfectly good food that way. But, I don’t know if she did or not, I imagine she’s still struggling with it.
But you can say anything, you don’t have to hold back. It’s just how you say it. [Yeah… lately…] So are you free to experience whatever may arise in your way today? Now you’re going to experience it. Whether you do it with struggle and resistance or whether you do it gracefully. Hmm? That right? [Yes.] Is there any reason to right and struggle with it when you’re going to experience it anyway when you could go ahead and do it freely and have a ball. Is there any reason to struggle and fight when it’s not going to get you anywhere?

330 Let’s say that you tried to run up that wall with your bare foot like a fly would… you know what would happen to you if you stood off and got a good run and start and run up about two steps, huh? You’d fall. On a certain portion of your anatomy, is that right? How many times would you think you would have ;to do that before you decided that wasn’t the way to do things? About right? Now when you see that struggle and resisting experiencing the ordinary little experiences of everyday living… if you do it by struggle and resistance you keep banging yourself up. Hmm? How many times do you think you’ll have to do THAT before you catch on to it? […] Well, you already learned the lesson, there’s only one lesson to learn about it. It’s not important so there’s nothing to struggle or resist. There’s nothing important out there.

[What if I’m into struggling and resisting?] Huh? What if you’re into it? Lots of masochists in the world. (laughter) I’m not trying to stop anybody from enjoying their misery. I’m only trying to make it plain that when you get tired of enjoying your misery you can stop it. I don’t want it to be a deep dark mystery to you as to how to. No, I have no objection to people enjoying misery. I have lots of friends who are into misery. They love it. If they haven’t got it over one thing they’re going to have it over another. If this doesn’t work, they’ll make something else important. If the last thing they were making important passed on, which it always does you know—the only reason anything comes is to pass, you know that, don’t you? And if everything that they were struggling with 356 passes out, there’s nothing to struggle with, they’ll INVENT something. But now that’s everybody prerogative, I’m not into suggestion that you feel good, be happy or joyous. I’m only interested in one thing, in case you ever come upon it, that you wanted to, that you have the know-how. But if you want to continue in misery until you are ninety or a hundred or die of old age it’s totally immaterial to me, I’m not trying to stop anybody from being miserable. If you’re into misery, by all means enjoy it. If you want some pointers on how to suffer

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[… try to extend that period of time… you know, I’ve given an example to someone I was talking to at lunch, how you may be laying on the beach feeling all

calm and…] warm and wonderful [and then somebody comes along and kicks sand in your face] and it gets in your eyeballs [just on purpose, I mean, they just] yes, just some old meany comes by [and the reaction is] “I think I’ll destroy her fun” (laughter) [the reaction to it is in a sixteenth of a second, maybe, the anger] no, it’s a microsecond [it’s just the anger plays up so fast that, to create] Kill that SOB! [yeah… (laughter) You want to know how to make that anger last longer [Do you have any ideas on how to create a time lapse in between] so you can make the anger last longer so you can enjoy it? (laughter) [No, a time lapse in between when they hit the sand and you react] How to delay your responses so that you have time to [Yeah] choose which one you want to. Is that what you’re asking? [Yes.] Well, you do it when you have no reason to delay it at the moment. You don’t wait until you’re in an emergency situation. Or a challenging situation, you do it now, okay? [So you’re just saying you practice…] Well, you just make up your mind. You see, once you make up your mind, you’ve formed the thing. We said once a conclusion has been done it’s the rule of action/attitude from then on. So let’s say that you are ;going to allow, uh, as much as eight seconds between the challenge and your response. [You mean you pre-determine…] No, you just determine right now, you’re going to allow a [before the thing ever happens?] Before you’re going to react in any way. Okay? You do it right now. What?
[unintelligible] What? Like what? [Well, getting your car out of the way.] Well, let’s make it eight microseconds then. It’s immaterial. It’s so there’s a delay that you have ;time to catch one half a breath before you come off. In other words, she wants to have her, uh, mind in gear before the mouth goes into motion. (laughter) Is that what you’re saying? Huh? [Yeah.] You want your mind in gear before the mouth goes in motion. [Yeah, I want a chance to choose something.] That’s right! Well, you’ve had one choice all your life, was to stick up for your rights. But let’s say that now you’ll start another one. So we’ll have eight microseconds before the time the sand lands in your eyeballs before you react. Okay? That’ll give you plenty of time. Because now the first thing you want to do is get the sand out of your eyes. That’s before you tell the SOB off. [Well, I was hoping that I might not feel like I have to explode, that'’...] Well you don’t. But I said the first thing you want to do is get the sand out of your eyes. By the time you get the sand out of your eyes… anyway.
So, uh… we’ll talk a wee bit on the subject love. Do you want a break for about two minutes or are you doing all right where you’re sitting, or you can break a minute and stretch and get the bottom rounded up and everything… I’ll clap on the door.

Lot of times they go together, like “I love you,” and so forth. So we’re going to talk about love for a few minutes 404. The one English word love comes from approximately four Greek words that have all been translated as to the word love. Each referring to an entirely different situation. So it’s no wonder there’s a small amount of confusion.

One of the Greek words is pia, p-I-a. It is the attraction or affection, if you  please, between parent and child. You might say family. Mostly parent-child bit. You may gritch at your child but you better not hear me doing it. You know, you may find all manner of fault with the child, but I better not be heard doing it, or I will be attacked unmercifully as a very uncouth person. So pia is the parent/child. Parent/offspring we’ll put, because it is not necessarily only child, because a mother dog has it just as well as a human mother has it. And a human bird has it about as well as a human mother has it, a bird has it. Most anything beyond that is a mammal on up, avian and mammals have ;it. Now, apparently reptiles and such things don’t have much of it.

The next one is number two, is Eros. That’s mating. And again, the animals, all the higher animals, and I guess even down to the lower ones get into that one pretty well. Even the plants get involved in that. So Eros is quite common and of course that’s the one, most of the songs you people in music make most of your living off of eros. Now that don’t rhyme very well, does it Bob? You couldn’t hardly sing a song about eros and hope to get very much attention with it. [I’m very suggestible so don’t do that (laughter)] Maybe it’d be wonderful if you did write a song on it. Eros. And tell how it works. It leads to all manner of things. It makes the doctors lots of money, makes the merchants lots of money, everybody gets involved in the act if you can just keep that one going. Because all you’ve got to do is make it important. And of course everybody has a great tendency to make it important. It’s probably one of the least important things in the world. Because it’s going to be around without putting any importance on it at all. But man can people get upset over ;it.

The next one is plain old philia, like the town of Philadelphia. And it merely means “I like.” So a person could say, I just love that chocolate cake over there. It means I philia the chocolate cake. Has a philia feeling because it’s sticky. And … so philia is “I like,” and that’s all. And again, the animals have it just as much as we do and there isn’t anything for us to get all excited about our great things with love. We can all go around hugging and shoats out in the field hug up against each other and everything and it all comes along the same.

Now there’s one that’s down here that can get a little beyond anything that we can see the animals do and it depends upon an intellect. And that one’s called a-g-a-p-e. Now agape is kind of another word for “I understand.” I understand that whatever you’re doing or whatever I’m doing or anybody else is doing, that at the moment of doing it had to feel right, proper or justifiable. That’s a whole lot of stuff there. Right or proper or justifiable, at that moment, or you can’t do it. You know we have a penal code that says a person knows right from wrong, or he knows this was wrong but he went on and did it anyway, not we’re entitled to lock him up for a few years. Or electrocute him or give him a fatal injection, or whatever we feel in the mood to do. But if any of you ever try to do something that you feel is wrong, improper and unjustifiable—now you can feel it’s wrong and improper, but under this circumstance the way that dirty bastard treated me, it’s justifiable. Now you can go ahead and do it, but you’ve got to have the justification. Now the only thing about justifications, they frequently break down after you’ve done it. You had a justification last long enough to do it, but as soon as you got the act done the justification breaks down and that side over there where it said “believe and do as your told by your authorities and please everybody and be in improver” comes up and says, now you’ve done it! And you feel horribly guilty. But the moment you did it, you had to feel it was justifiable. Now, ordinarily everything we do we feel is right or proper. And of course justifiable will get you in trouble some times. But you had to feel it was justifiable.

Now that’s understanding. And is a human trait. And possibly is available to about any human that comes along. Now only people who are fairly well into being aware of integration, of being aware of what they are, where they are, what’s going on here, and what they can do, can come up with the next level, or next idea of love, which is the most uncommon one in the world. And only a person with their own frame of reference, a new frame of reference, a new being, could have ;it. And that is unconditional love. Most of the love that we know anything about, especially these up here with eros and everything, is highly conditional. I’ll love you if you do thus and so and thus and so, but if you do so-and-so all my love is gone and it will be replaced by hate. Any of you know anything about that? Huh? You know anything about that? [Oh, both sides, from both sides.] Oh I know, from all over. Not both sides, but from all over. In other words, conditions are set. And if they are not met then all bets are off concerning love, huh? All bets are off. No love now, condition wasn’t met. And so this goes on, they even have contracts on it, and etc. Now of course that ;is a legal matter and has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
Unconditional love is the love that mankind has attributed to God. God loves all of his creatures, rains on the just and the unjust just alike, he helps the bank robber rob the bank and he helps the farmer raise the corn, and helps the preacher preach the sermon. It doesn’t make any difference.

Unconditional love. Now, when we have unconditional love, we have tremendous power. A lot of people want power but they don’t know that the only road to power is through unconditional love. It’s the only way you’re ever going to come up with real power. Because that eliminated all conflict, all struggle and all resistance. Unconditional love is setting no boundary for caring and doing things. Furthermore, it does not make what we ordinarily think of as God or spirit or whatever word you like to use, I don’t know. It puts it back down to life. Now man has talked about a higher power that he theoretically worships through the years. Are you acquainted with that all right? Higher power. Uh, what association you have with a higher power? Anyone want to comment on that a little bit?

[I’d like to comment on it. Because with the Catholic church, when my mother got a divorce, she couldn’t go back to the church…] Well that was earthly power, that was the pope of Rome and all his boys. I’m talking about the higher power. The higher power you don’t have any association with, only you can plead to it, is that right? Is that about right?

A great teacher came along some two thousand years ago and said, The father and I are one. Or Life and I are one. He didn’t say it was a higher power offout there somewhere, he said it’s right here with us, is that right? And of course that upset all the authorities because they like to have these higher things, so I heard they nailed him to a tree and said shut that noise up. And then they put out the story that he was a demigod and a higher creature, and so you couldn’t be like him you could only plead to him, is that right?

So the idea of a higher power has been kept around all the time, and the higher power was probably jealous and a whole bunch of other things, notunconditional love. But you can’t talk to anything that’s not somewhat your species, is that right? Hmm? You can’t talk to porpoises, even though they’re supposed to trying to talk, you can’t talk to them, is that right? A different species out there, right? […] Can’t hack it. You can understand a few things they do, I can understand when a dog wants out the door and when it wants in the door, and when it’s hungry and when it wants to go to bed and when it wants to find a ;mate, I can understand that much of its lingo, but I can’t sit and tell it any of my concepts and ideas. That right? It don’t understand my ideas. I can understand the lower one, but I can’t understand the higher, it can’t understand me. [I see where you’re getting to now.] Is that right? [Yeah.] The higher can understand the lower, but the lower cannot understand the higher. Can’t communicate that way. Hmm? Correct? [I understand.] Okay, so now.

510    X is you, it is an aspect of you. It’s not all you, because you’ve also got an awareness function, you’ve got a motor function, a physical body and so forth, but it is you. It is the real you that’s there. An aspect of you. Not a part, but an aspect, is one way of looking. It is the “how” part, and your part of it is another aspect of you, is the “what.” Take care of the what. Now. If there’s unconditional love, there’s total communication both ways. I can communicate with you and you can communicate with me and why, we’re both the same species, creatures, is that right? [Right. I see where you are.] We can communicate. [Yeah, there'’ no resistance and no...] You can give me some of your abstract ideas, I can give you an abstract idea, I can describe, imagine a house in my head and I can get it across to you, some way or other. Paper or drawings or something. I can get it across that you can understand and picture that same house I talked about. Without building it yet, is that correct? [Yep.] Or a vehicle or anything else we’re talking about. So we got to be the same species in order to do that, because cross species cannot do that. You may understand your horse, but your horse may understand a few commands from you, but you can’t tell him about the house you’re going to build or the barn you’re going to build for him, or the junk you’re going down to the Caribbean on, or the drunk you was on last week. He won’t understand a bit of that. Hmm? Not a bit.

So then the first big obstruction to man being a source of power, or a center or power, or we’ll say a point of power, each one of us, a point of power, is first that we attribute power to being a different species than we are, it’s a god, or something like that, out there. Hmm? You can’t get through it, you can plead with it, you can pray to it, you can supplicate, like the dog comes and supplicates to us to give it a bone. Or its Mighty Dog. Or let it out the door, open the door for it, and so forth, right? That what the dog does? It supplicates us, it prays to us so to speak. And we can understand what the dog is wanting to do. But no way can we communicate to the dog our ideas. Right?

So now let’s first take off this intelligent power, life. Whatever word we want to use for it. And take the mystery out of it and it is the aspect of me that takes care of the how. And another aspect of me, the intellect, takes care of the what. Okay? Now we’re equal, is that right? [Let’s see… one aspect takes care of how, and the other…] takes care of the what. So the intellectual aspect of this being called Bob here takes care of what, and hasn’t the foggiest idea how to do the how. I don’t know how to write Robert there, even, you know. I just had an idea I wanted to do it and something did it. X, equal, but a different aspect did that, okay?

So now we have a partnership arrangement and there is unconditional love. All the way around. It has unconditional love for the intellectual aspect that says “what,” I have unconditional, the intellectual aspect, has unconditional love for the part that does the how, for the aspect that takes care of the how. And I have unconditional love for all aspects of life. Now, you’re an aspect of life, you’re an aspect of life, you’re an aspect , you’re an aspect and that …out there is an aspect and all of the rest of us. Now, we’re each a point. And if we are a point, a conscious point of life, there is tremendous power expressed through each of these points. Now if the power is attributed to being off out there, and I can only be the go-between, then maybe I’m luckier and get more go-betweening done than you do, you know. That’s the way the whole game started way back there down the rise of the shaman. People come around and asked the shaman why questions. They said, Why aren’t we having rain, says here. So he goes out there and mumbles up a tree a few minutes and he come back and he said, you pissed off the rain gods. Now if you will bring me twenty-two coonskins and two axes, I will try to make peace with him. He claimed to have the go-between to this higher power. So sure enough, sooner or later, it rained. It always does, you know. And of course he took credit for it. So he earned his twenty-two coonskins and his two axes. And pretty soon they come out some day and said why is there no berries this season? He’d gone off and he come back and said you ticked off the berry god. And if you will get me so many this and so many that and so many this I’ll go over there and make peace with him. Okay? So, sure enough, the berries grew again. Like they always do. And he took credit for it.

Somebody got sick, he said you have ticked off another kind of a god and he had to do this. So he became the go-between. Now we’ve had this—it’s such a good-paying profession it’s still going on. It’s only now divided into a four-headed ;monster. It used to be only one, the shaman. It’s divided. He got two heads and then he got three heads and now he’s got four heads. Still doing the same thing. You know all four of them, don’t you?

Well, number one, shaman, of course, is the religious man, the theologian who tells you that the reason that all sorts of things is that you ticked off the almighty being. Okay? And along with him next comes the healing art, he says the reason you are sick is because an entity, a demon-type creature out there, called cancer, was running around here one day and looked down and said I’m going to attack Joe there. Okay? You know he comes down and starts eating on you. And the only thing they can do is try to run him off. But he more than likely won’t go, so he’ll probably win in the long run. Is that right? And the next one is power politics. That’s the one that gets deals with those other kids that run other bailiwicks over there, the other shamans. And there’s some of them we’re supposed to like and some of them we’re not supposed to like. Is that correct? If you like the wrong ones, woe be to you, you’re a traitor. Is that right? And sometimes they change overnight. We didn’t like them yesterday, but today we got to like them, is that right?

You know it wasn’t too long ago we loved those Russians and hated those Japanese, and loved those Chinese. Hmm? And overnight we got to love those Japanese and hate those Russians. Is that right? If you don’t, you’re out, you’re a bad guy, you’re a traitor type of person.

And then the other one, of course, is big business. If it wasn’t for big business you girls would all have wrinkles, you’d smell bad and your hair would be all bent out of shape and everything. So we got to have that shaman there to get you all that good stuff, you know. You know what kind of pouf-pouf you got and kind of twist you got here. A lady came in the office the other day and she’d been over to have her hair deal. And it was a jillion little kind of fuzzies turned brilliant green. (laughter) She was a little green around the gills, too. Something didn’t work out just right there, I don’t know what it was. I think they told her she got in the sun too quick. In Arizona that’s a little hard to avoid. The sun shines three hundred and sixty-five days a year you know, and pretty bright at that. But, at any rate, they told her something could be done about it eventually. It would grow out.

But you know, big business tells you what’s pretty, doesn’t it? You wouldn’t know otherwise. [I have a lot of conditioning there.] Well, you know, the government, the business tells you what’s pretty, what’s in. And the government tells you what’s in to believe, healing art tells you normal and abnormal and you’re always abnormal, because the normal hasn’t been found yet (laughter). Everybody’s a patient. When you studied normal you studied charts. Mannequins. When you studied people you got people and none of them fit the charts and the mannequins. So you’re abnormal in some way. And theologians considers good and bad. And obviously you’re not good all the way through, and certain, is that right? [Yeah! (laughter)] So, they got them a good business going there, so maybe it’s high time we decided that we didn’t need any of that, that we could have unconditional love for all creatures including the shaman, and that we don’t have to try to straighten anybody out, and we can care for you no matter what you do, or don’t do, what you’ve done, or may do, or may ever do. And what you failed to do. You’re still an expression of life. And individualized expression of life, X. Right? And I have nothing that I can find fault with you about, and there’s nothing about you I need to change, period. There’s nothing about you I need to change, period. Nothing about you I need to change, nothing about you, nobody else, nothing needs to be changed about any person for me to care for them. Now that is somewheres toward the point of unconditional love. Now if you would like to exercise the power that is inherent in you because you are an individualized expression of life. After you’ve done the others, we talked about seeing what you are, where you are, what’s going on here and what you can do, having a frame of reference that you can be what to you is a good guest, and that nothing needs to be changed for you to get along, then if you will pick up unconditional love, you will find that you have tremendous power. Now power is neither good nor bad. Power IS. You can use it for constructive or destructive purposes, right? Huh? You can use it that way. Power is power. It has no, uh, good power and bad power and so forth, it’s just power. Now it’s up to you to use it. What’s your question sir? [No question, you need a Kleenex or you’re going to get blood on your shirt.] Well, good, I’ve been trying to run that down. Excuse me a minute. … Have you got any comments, questions, something you want to say, something you want to challenge, something you want to hear about. Okay?

559 [There’s a name that you used, shaman. What does that mean?] A shaman was the original authority before we got it so organized we had theologians and physicians and politicians and big business, we had a shaman. He was the original authority. He was a guy that was smart enough to know that no why question has any answer but if he gave one he could get paid for it. …

[Well did they change them from time to time, he was a different person?] Oh well, he gets different names, he’s a mortal being, sure, he’s just a little smarter than the common herd. He found that everybody was wanting to know why, why, why, why, why, why did this happen, why does that happen? And nobody else was answering, so he thought, well, he got a little smart and said, I’ll charge them for it, and answer their question. There’s no way they could check up on it. And I’ll always be safe. And I can live without working. And without going out in the desert and hunting, without chasing those old buffalo and things. I can sit here and have them bring it to me. And the suckers will like it. And they’re still doing it. We just got more sophisticated offices to collect in now, instead of sitting on a rock at the edge of the teepee, why we got a fancy joint downtown. Taj Mahal. Yes?

[… the shaman was a wise man before he started?] Well, he was obviously called a wise man because he could answer all the why questions, honey. [But maybe at some point not having the purpose of getting a profit?] Oh, there’s been a few wise men around, but all a prophet is, is a guy that you will agree that everything he says is correct. You see, I could be a prophet today if you’ll agree with me that everything I say is true. You better not, but if you did, I suddenly became a prophet. It’s simple. And if you believe everything I say, you could probably say I’m a wise man. Now you can get by and be safe by saying he’s a wise ass, but that’s all right. (laughter) A smart ass is something. That’s, you know, you can live with. No harm done there. Don’t get that other stuff going. Okay? Oh, sure, there’s been lots of wise men around.

A wise man is a man who knows in his own being what’s going on here. 691 If you know what’s going on here, you are a wise lady. And it’s fairly simple to see what’s going on here. But the fact that it’s simple doesn’t make it popular, because there’s precious few people, if you went out today and asked a zillion people, “What’s going on here?” and they didn’t lock you up real quick, you’d probably be surprised at the answers that you get. If you proper tone of voice you won’t get locked up. But you’ll never find anybody who can actually tell you what’s going on here. So, if you know what’s going on here, you would be a wise man. And that’s what a wise person was called. And it had nothing to do with the shaman. The shaman was the guy who loved to answer “why” questions. And you can see them today, and if you want to check them out, you always go ask them why something happened. And they’ll give you such things like it was karma from your last incarnation, or the third one back that you hadn’t got balanced out yet. Or it was this or it was that or the other.

One time one lady that I know who gives everybody past lives readings, and three or four of them, you know, three or four past lives, and she was being visited by two great renown psychics. A man and his wife. And the wife borrowed this lady’s car and went off to the shopping area and on the way back to the house she run out of fuel and left the car parked down the street and walked over to and got a cab and come home. And she didn’t know where she’d left the car, being a stranger in town. So this friend of mine called up and said Bob, would you do something for me? I said sure, what you want? He said, come out and help me find my car. Mrs. so-and-so lost my car. She told me it run out of gas. I said, well that’s wonderful, I will come out immediately and take you to where your car is sitting. In a house with three renown psychics. I don’t see why I should have to look. You find out where that friggin car is by the time I get there and I’ll take you over there. “Shut up! You smart ass, come up and find my car.” (laughter)

Now, you see, I can tell you all about your three last incarnations. You know that. But you can’t check up on it. But I can tell you what you had for dinner last night. I went in a lady’s house the other night, the great psychic. She is about to die and not liking it very well. And she was wanting to get rid of her household furniture and whatnots and do-dads and collectibles and etc., which she had some pretty nice ones

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032 And so she had me come in and so amongst other things she asked me what I did and I said I do this… “Well, do you do any auctions?” I said yeah, I’m an auctioneer along with the other things. “Shit! I knew that when you came in the door.” I said good, now tell me what I did just before I began to do auctions, that I’ve done most of my life. That should have a little … on me yet. Because I still do some of it. What did I do then, dear lady? And she was a total loss, and she was real ticked that I had even brought it up to ask her something that she could be asked… check up on. So always when you’re predicting, never put an exact date, and when you are giving wild answers to why questions, just be sure it’s something nobody can check up on, okay? Then you is a prophet par excellence and you, anybody can be a great psychic, all you got to do is remember the rules.

Comment? [I want to ask something about what you might think about Christ, for instance. Like I always sort of felt that he was a man who had reached a certain stage of his potential and was showing, and he was an example of our own potential.] Was he a god or was he a human being? [Human being. I think.] Okay, but you see officially they had to change him into a demigod. His father was a god, his mother was a woman. And therefore you could never reach it, you see, that’s the way they officially had to put it. Yes, I agree he was a human being and he realized that X and he were one, he said the father and I were one, and he said he could talk to it and tell X aspect to go raise a man from the dead and could do so, and he said his part of it, the intellectual part, he couldn’t do nothing, but he … that other part over there and that would sure get going. That aspect of himself. Right. [But you talked about the fact that reaching a stage of unconditional love brings a certain power.] And I think he was at that stage of unconditional love, where he could exert those, if the story is correct, I’m assuming it is. [All right… Now they still nailed him to a tree.] Oh Yeah. [Did he have a choice in that?] Uh, circumstances we don’t always have a choice. How we respond to circumstances we always have a choice. And he responded to it with the way that would profit all of us. If he would have picked up and departed, which he quite likely could have with the greatest of east… you wouldn’t have had any chance of learning anything. But … being nailed to the tree and he gave an answer that expressed total unconditional love, forgive the jerks, they know not what they do. Is that right? [Yeah.] Now, if he had run off and never got there, you would never had a chance to learn that do you see. So I’m sure he accepted that circumstance and he could go along with that.

Yes, Charles. [Charles: You said if one has unconditional love they have great power, I’d like to hear more about unconditional love and great power, because you…] Well, I think you have to find out about both. I think I’ve just stated the unconditional love is a total commitment to life, without any conditions as to what that individualized expression of life here would be doing or not doing. A total commitment to life, without any conditions about what that individualized expression of life does or does not do. The power is whatever would be required of one today. Uh, not something you show off tomorrow, but if all you needed was one thing today it would be there, … another day, what you need that day. It’s power to do whatever is at present at the moment. The power being ability to state clearly the situation and X does the work. Unconditional love removes every obstruction between communication between intellect and X. That’s probably the easiest way of stating it. It removes every vestige of obstruction. You see, in a person with a certain amount of conditioning, there’s tremendous obstruction between the intellect and X. Obstruction to clear communication, because we’ve got all these preconceived opinions and viewpoints and what can do and what can’t do,   (About 72)

and Robert what was it, you were caught on today, they told you you couldn’t spank the kid because of some reason or other. Because child abuse. A doctor I know caught his kid by the arm to pull him out of his car that he had been out driving and he was twelve years old and he had this big corvette out driving it around town and run into a couple of things and broke off a water hydrant among other things. The old man grabbed him by the arm and pulled him out and the kid started hollering, Child abuse! Child abuse! Call the police! Call the police! My Dad’s beating up on me! (laughter) Can’t correct kids these days, it’s child abuse. Huh?

[Charles: Commitment… ought to bes (partially unintelligible)]

I have no ought-to-bes, what-should-bes, that aspect of life, individual unit aspect of life there needs something or wants something, and it’s anywheres within my realm of doing it, it’ll be done. Uh… regard without regard to any condition whatsoever. And that removes the last obstruction between intellect communicating with X. In other words, it eliminates all the Not-I’s. Because all the Not-I’s are a condition set up before you’re ;going to do something. You know that. That’s what all the Not-I’s are, conditions set up as opposed to unconditional love. So when they’re removed you’ve removed all obstruction to the communication, accurate communication between intellect and awareness, between intellect and X—uh, between awareness and X, the what and the how, and therefore liberates unlimited power.

[Charles: Now awhile back… (cough) …] Said what? [the awareness function was to determine what and that X was to determine how.] That’s correct. So then you’ve removed all obstruction between the two now. [So in this condition of unconditional love, unconditional love, does awareness have any choice as to the what?] It still chooses the what but does not have any choice in how it’s brought about. That’s two different aspects. So, let’s draw us a little picture. Here’s X, here’s awareness, with unconditional love. And here’s the physical body, so something here, awareness says what it wants. there is no obstruction to communicating with X, X communicates to the body and it’s carried out. And it’s almost a continual flow. There is no hang-up in between. It’s an instantaneous flow.

The point that we are wishing to make is that unconditional love removes the last obstruction, or all conditional, all conditions, which is an obstruction to clear communication between awareness function and uh, X, or between the what and the how. And then it flows.
[Marsha: Is unconditional love something you can do? Or is it you have to have the …] Well, I think that if you begin to see that, uh, most of what we’ve talked about today has been the way to it. You have to live it, not just decide you’re going to do it. In other words, if you jumped up and said well, I’m going to have unconditional love you’re kidding yourself. Yes pretty lady?

[Would that kind of be like, we just say, okay, I’m, you’re ready to take all the consequences for things, I mean, that happen to you…] I would suggest that we go back, if I may, I don’t want to be abrupt or anything, but here. We talked about, uh, having, uh, contribution to life today. We talked about, uh, being aware of what, what you are, where you are, what’s going on here and what you can do. Okay? As you work with those, unconditional love will come about. Now for one of us to try to anticipate ahead of time as to what it would be, like making a definition of it, we’ll only screw ourselves up. Okay? Let it happen, don’t try to figure what it would try to be like if it did happen. Okay? Let it happen, then it’s clear and it’s concise, and you’ll find that there is no obstruction between the what and the how. Between awareness aspect of man and life aspect of man. It’s all one, pssst! And it flows, like that. And so, the what, the how, and the function comes just as—straight flow. It turns loose all obstructions to power. Okay?

[Would you then be non-disturbing?] Wait and see honey. I think that you’d find that there might be a little disturbance here. If you ever tried being nailed on a tree I figure it would be a little bit disturbing (laughter). [Bob, is this a little bit in the realm of …] The what? [Leo (B)?] No, no, no, no. Leo is—he’s into hugging. (laughter) And sweating. I’m not sweating or hugging, either one. (laughter) [I don’t mean the physical…] No, he talks about love, but his love is affectionate love, honey, between family. He’s very big into pia. [Well I’ve only heard one program.] Well, uh, I’ve heard a few hundred of them. I know the man real well, he’s a sweet, lovely, wonderful person, but his big thing is here. [Oh.] Pia and then a little bit of this and a whole lot of this and he don’t even get around to this one. Yes Carl?

[Carl: Does the awareness function still have desire or purpose in this condition?] It has to have a purpose or there isn’t be anything done. If you didn’t have a desire you’d never do anything. You see, uh… there’s certain books around, you’ve got to end all desire. Uh… that’s only partially true—it is partially true, desire to be totally non-disturbed. If I was going to hope for total non-disturbance, it’s like you ask me a question a minute and I said you ever tried being nailed to a tree—it’s a little, uh, disturbing. I think that the person who doesn’t want anything changed in the world would even appreciate and be thankful for a certain amount of disturbance. Uh, I wouldn’t want to be left with no disturbance, because I wouldn’t want anything. Uh, we divide being contented and being satisfied into two different things. Ordinarily in the everyday world it was satisfaction is a state of the senses, contentment is a state of the mind. And I’m very contented to be dissatisfied, and I’m always dissatisfied, because that gives me something to do. And could you conceive of anything more horrible than to be totally and permanently satisfied. [Just for a little while.] (laughter) No, I said totally and permanently satisfied. Otherwise it’s partial and temporary. Uh, partial and temporary satisfactions we get. But, uh, could you think of total and permanent satisfaction? You know, you made love once, goodbye, no more… total permanent. Got hungry once, had a good dinner, total permanent, never wanted anything more to eat. Thirsty, I got a drink, never want it again. Total and permanent—no, that’s nothing. Yes, Robert, yes sir?

[You said in the tapes that non-disturbance, eventually that there’s a, a, byproduct, is that right?]

It’s a byproduct, non-disturbance is somewhat a byproduct of something we talked about today. I said if I were, uh, doing what, uh, is to me being a good guest, nobody interferes with it. Uh, yeah, there’s usually a little disturbance come along here, there and elsewhere? [(unintelligible)… is the same type thing?] I, it’d be something on that idea, that you would still be that you’re going to have a pain, a discomfort—as long as you live in a human body, it’s subject to a little pain or a little discomfort or a little disturbance. But you don’t care. You’re not making a big issue out of it. So somebody rings you up with the wrong number at three o’clock in the morning and asks if Mary’s there. So what? That anything to get all bent out of shape over? I know people who throw fits over such things. I don’t know, I said, No, Mary’s out on a call, I think she’s got a date tonight and hung up. (laughter). I’ve never heard of Mary, you know, may be the guy’s girlfriend, I don’t know, his wife, or whatever. He called up acted like he knew who he was talking to said (feigns voice) Hey, is Mary there? Nah, Mary’s out, I think she’s on a date. (laughter) Huh? [Mary suffers the consequences!] No, she can just do a lot of ex-plaining! (laughter) Yes, hon?

[So you can’t avoid unpleasant things, you experience the good and bad…] No wait a minute, are they good and are they bad or are they just something you like and dislike? [No, what I mean is, so you can, you can’t avoid…] Some things that you don’t like. Yes, I don’t think this world was set up to satisfied your or my taste, okay? Now, what you call pain may be a lot of fun to me. And vice versa, did you know that? You see, there'’ no agreement on what is good and what'’ bad. In this world. Did you know that? Huh? So you say it'’ bad. But who are you to say it'’ bad because you don'’ know the outcome of a situation three weeks from now or four weeks or six months or twenty-two years from now, do you? Huh? You wouldn’t know, would you? So how could you say it was bad? It may have went through this to have some fantastic thing.

172 I’ll tell you a story if you’d like. Want a story? Said that there was a gentleman over in the Middle East and he had, his only possession that really amounted to anything, he and his wife and son lived in a hovel and they had this gorgeous Arab mare. Just, you know, absolutely flowing beauty, perfection. And every, the neighbors always came by and said how lucky he was to have this one beautiful mare. He said he didn’t know if it was good or bad, he just knew he had this lovely mare. Well, one morning he went out, she’d broke out of the corral and was gone. And all the neighbors came by and said how terrible, how bad it is that your mare is gone. The old guy said I don’t know if it’s good, or whether it’s bad, I know the mare’s gone. One morning about a week and a half later, she came back, she had seven beautiful Arab stallions, wild ones, with her, and she brought those in the corral, they’re all smitten with her, so they went in too. Now then, all the neighbors come by and said what wonderful good luck you have, you have these seven beautiful stallions along with your mare back. He said I don’t know whether it’s good, bad, I just know I got the mare back and seven stallions with her. So, while they looked them over the son decided to break these stallions so they could be ridden and he could sell them. And one of them threw him and he broke his leg. So he was laid up with a broken leg, in those days they didn’t have little pins so you could go, he was laid up with it, splint and the whole bit, so all the neighbors came by and said that’s bad, your son’s got a broken leg. “I don’t know whether it’s good or bad, boy’s got a broken leg.” About this time the king sent his men through to conscript all able-bodied young men to send them on one of his war adventure. He couldn’t go because he had a broken leg. The neighbors sons all had to go. They come over and said what good luck, your son got his leg broken and he didn’t have to go to the army (laughter). He said I don’t know whether it’s good or bad, I just know that my son got a broken leg and didn’t have to go to the army. Okay? And, uh, we could go on with this as long as you want to go (laughter) The point is you don’t know what’s good and you don’t know what’s bad and the quicker you get that through your head the better off you’ll be.

[So he just kept reporting what was.] He just reported what is, and you can always respond to what is, and you don’t know whether it’s good or whether it’s bad. You see. You know it is. But you don’t know what’s good and bad because you don’t know the outcome down the road, you see. Okay? Okay. Any other comment, questions? Yes, sir, back in the back row.
[Before about the spiritual body. You mentioned truth, a new frame of reference.] A total new frame of reference. [I’m still trying to relate it to the picture of man and what it means, with, and relating it to the death of the physical body.] Well, all right. We’ll try to answer it this way. I’ll draw pictures. We had this one here with all these little things in it, right, the Not-I’s in. Wipe them out, you’ve got a new frame of reference that’s like this now, that’s the new body, the spiritual body. What reference does it have [Is the whole thing the spiritual body?] No, just this is. [The awareness center.] Now, this, as we said, with unconditional love and spiritual body, this is essentially erased. [horizontal line between X and A~c.t.] X and uh, awareness is one. It seems that that can survive physical death. If it not one, it apparently does not. Okay? That’s why they call it building a soul, something that survive. The old guys long ago said you could only consider yours what survived a shipwreck. Might lose the body and everything else but you could get it all if that survived a shipwreck you exist. Otherwise you’re only a potential. Does that help answer your question? 211 Okay? Now, you.

[The other parts, the parts of love, language, the one… (unintelligible) How do they relate? Is it just another game maybe to play?] Oh, these up here. They’re just an aspect of living, I said dogs and a horse, and (?) all has those just as much as you do. And only the human can have this one, and this is the first step towards going towards this one. This one [agape] you get a little understanding, this one [unconditional love] you really comprehend. This one you are fairly awake and see, this one you begin to get a little understanding. So that goes with understanding. It’s on the way. These two are strictly human, these up here anything might have it. Horses, dogs, cows, pigs, [something else…] chickens, birds [unintelligible] right. [Thank you.]

[… you mentioned about the power. You also mentioned about these, uh, disturbing things, like criticism, and everything in between, on X and all those bad things in there that are disturbing] I don’t know whether they’re bad or not. [Well, (laughter) you also mentioned, you said, uh, in no uncertain terms, that they are not your guests, because those] Those are Not-I’s, I don’t love Not-I’s because they’re not real people, they are con—concepts that acts like an entity. They’re not real entities, they act like it. [Now, then, if you were to tell the Not-I’s, I identify you, I see you, I know who you are, now I don’t deal with you anymore, and you were able to ] you run them off, run them off! [able to have unconditional love, you would have a awful lot of power to get your ideas across then, wouldn’t you?] Uh, in all probability, why don’t you experiment with it. [Yeah, I think I will.] Okay, good. Now I’m happy! You experiment with it. Don’t ask me what’s it going to be like so you can see if you want to experiment to experiment (laughter) You know, … human beings are a strange breed of cats, they want to figure it out in their head, and preferably not bother with doing it because we’re totally disgustingly lazy. I won’t ever agree to try to tell you how the outcome of something would be, I’d say go do it. You know, I could write you a cookbook, and put pictures in it, of all kinds of beautiful food, and I could lay it down in front of you at the table, but sooner or later you’re going to starve to death if that’s all you get.   241

You better take a little stew, plain old country stew, or red beans and rice, or something like that, than have all these beautiful pictures, is that right? I’m trying to give you a workbook, or roadmap, but you’re going on the trip, not me. I’m not going for you, I can’t. Anymore than I can go to the bathroom for you, I can eat dinner for you or, uh, brush my teeth for you or anything like that. See, you’ve got to do it. Now I'’ trying to lay out some things for you to experiment with, that you can use, and check them out. Until you check them out assume they’re all a damn lie, okay?

[I’ve checked out one thing, and I want, for survival’s sake, my church group, my church group especially, uhm, discussing things that I’ve tried out, how, you mentioned at the beginning of the tape, later on we’ll know how to discuss things with other people, maybe some of these ideas—though, I have never felt the opportunity arise, how do we keep the rocks from coming at us when they do ask you?] Oh, I ask questions. Don’t elucidate, ask a question and let them tell you. If you ask enough questions, one step at a time, the person will tell you what you intended to tell them. And that’s theirs, then. Don’t go around preaching at people. That belongs to the preaching profession, and let them do that, and I don’t choose to get in the preaching profession. If I do it, I’ll run me a revival camp and make more money than you can shake a stick at. But I don’t think I’ll get into it, okay. Now, somebody here had something?

[Yeah, the unconditional love, isn’t that, would that be just about the same concept as certain religious groups, they are the chosen people, they have seen the light or what have you…] No. [And it can transcend death…] Uh, it does transcend death, I’m quite sure of that. But, I would not say that … have seen the light or anything else, we’re not talking in those terms. We use no absolute language here, we’re very down to earth. We say we understand something and we comprehend it and we have realized something, maybe, but I don’t go around talking about seeing the lights and all these. It is unconditional love is more what religious groups has said “God has for sinners,” okay? It’s the love that the story of Christ tells he talked to people. The kind of love that God has for creatures, according to the book, okay? That’s the best I can tell you about, other than you set absolutely no conditions for your total concern or commitment to any person, to life, okay? [Well, that’s what I was wondering, because there are conditions on those others…] I know they’ve got conditions. We’re not talking about any condition whatsoever. One of the main conditions is that you must agree with them. If you don’t, you’re the devil, I’ll assure you. And this doesn’t talk about any agreement or anything of the sort. You’re on your own. Something you do. Yes ma’am?

[The bottom part, the physical body] Yes? [Would that ever become one?] It can, but, uh, wait a while. [Is that…] It could possibly become one with the other. It works without any conflict, which makes it in a lot better shape than if it is if it’s in conflict, one trying to give one, one another. So it works in a lot better shape. I did not say that it would be non-disturbed, because it does live in an environment, and does it become with the other? It’s already one, but it is a different thing, one is physical matter, which is charged up by, uh, life, which is similar to what we would call current going through the fan. Now the fan’s sitting there because there’s no current going through the motor now, right? Just sitting there. Pull the switch and a current starts going through the motor. Then the current and the motor’s not the same thing, even though they’re working together, but the motor is charged up by the current and it does work. Right? And, uh, X and awareness are in the nature of spirit and the body is in the nature of matter, and it won’t work unless they charge it up, but they can work without it, okay? If they’re hooked together.

[Does the body, uh, after (?or have a) resurrection?] Uh, I’m not prepared to answer that question for you, honey. I don’t know. I think it’s resurrected when it gets alive, really. The scripture says awake o sleeper, arise from among the dead. Uh, according to scripture, which you are quoting just a little bit out of the book, man passes from death from life. Where the things that ordinarily know about, why, uh, man passes from life to death, is that right? [Right…] Really, in reality it goes the other way and I’m not sure how we could equate certain things that have been concepts that have been talked, kind of twisted up for a long time, and ones that’s not twisted. I can’t equate those for you, I can just tell you (?whether they can fit?) okay? Man passes from death to life, rather than from life to death. And ordinarily have been conditioned to accept that man passes from life to death. And he really goes the other way around, okay? We’ll stop there. Yes Charles?

[There’s confusion on this point.] Good! [About unconditional love.] I’m sure there would be. Until it’s experienced it would HAVE to be confusion, okay? [Let me express the confusion.] Okay. [A few minutes ago Bob G. says “I don’t like Not-I’s. Isn’t that a condition?] No, Not-I is not an entity. [I didn’t say it was an entity.] It’s only a concept of an error, an erroneous concept, and has nothing to do with anything that’s real, it’s a Not-I, which is an obstruction between X and awareness, okay? So I don’t have any way of loving a concept out there that has been allowed to exercise until it begins to act like an entity. There’s no way to love it. I’m talking about life that I love, and that’s not life, it’s the antithesis of life. [But here’s where the confusion comes in. Awareness having no conditions, being unconditional love, seems to me to be experiencing a lot of Not-I’s in that which (?it’s working with?—muffled)] It could be, all around, I don’t doubt I probably work with many Not-I’s every day, as most of you run into them… [And I think you sometimes let those Not-I’s get what they think they want.] Oh, at times, I have been, if I figured that’s the way to get rid of him before too long. That’s right. Yeah, asking me what they want, I figure that’s the way I’ll manage to expose him, enough to get rid of him. As far as liking it or lumping it, that has nothing to do with life, and I said I had unconditional love for all expressions of life, and that is not an expression of life. An expression of something entirely different from life. I have no qualms for Not-I'’. They’re not visible or I could lay it out and stomp on it. They’re not around. I can'’ see them. They’re only a concept. That a person has allowed to operate over and over until it becomes like an entity. So I see no conflict in that whatsoever, okay?

[Did you ever know anybody to figure this out from reading the Bible?] Love I have found very few people that figured it out with reading the Bible and a thousand other books and talking to many teachers. No. I don’t think so honey. It’s too much, you know, if you come upon a book and you had absolutely had never heard of it or been taught anything about it, you might could learn from it. But you’ve been taught things that you say things the Bible says that it doesn’t say, all through it for many times over, and so you could read it, it’s like a proofreader reading something, material he knows, he misses all the things that, the booboos in there, he misses them, and he can read it over. I’ve had people make me a five hundred dollar bet that a certain thing was or was not in the Bible. And you better believe Robert picked them up. And then they go say, “Well they changed that since the last time I read it.” (Laughter) “They changed it!” No, they haven’t changed it, but they had conceived of it being a certain way and when he read it it looked that way to him. Just like if you had written an article and then you had it typeset and then you tried to proofread it yourself, you would never see the booboos in it, you wouldn’t see the typos in it, because you’re going to read it like you wrote it, right down the line. And so, uh, many of these books can’t be much value to us anymore because we already have these perceived opinions and they’re hard to go around. Yes love?

[Do you think that the Bible now is just not even, it’s just totally rewritten the way that people…] Not, I don’t think it’s totally, but it’s probably had a lot of additions and subtractions on it, honey, no doubt of that. But it’s still got some extremely valuable stories in it. It’s a collection of teaching stories and not history, in my book, and I wouldn’t want to try to get along without it, because it’s an extremely valuable teaching book. A lot of good stories in it. Go on and read Job. See about that big bet that Job, er, the Heavenly Father and the Devil had. […] Sure did pick on that poor old bastard. Man. (laughter) Just to satisfy their bet. Read that story, great teaching story. Yes?

[When from… we’re able to experience the functions, and the I, or whatever, being one, which I’ve had a couple of times, how do we, always want to get back and have that feeling again…] First place, instead of get back to it, let’s go forward and find it. Because you fell over it and you kept going so it’s in front of you, not behind you, honey, that’s one thing. And the second one is that for those few moments somewheres when we stumble into it, we had set aside conditions for a few minutes, and then somebody come along and we grabbed up a handful of them again. So I wouldn’t try to get the thing again. I would keep going forward and see if I couldn’t set all conditioning aside. Because it happened without you trying before, it’ll happen without your trying again, or any of the rest of us it happens when you’re not trying. When you’re trying, you won’t get it. But you can set aside all conditions that you have set in your life. Is that right? So if you would like to go through experiencing that type of experiencing again, set aside all conditioning, okay? Don’t try to get the sensations, it’ll happen anyway, that’s natural. See, all the ideas of the teaching material is that you don’t have to struggle to get something, that you’re getting rid of something or removing the obstruction, because your natural state is to be in that state of being at all times. And the only reason you’re not is due to an obstruction, and the obstruction is all the conditioning or the conditions we have set up. So can you just set all that down in the nearest trash barrel you see, say “bye-bye!” And leave it sitting there, you really don’t need it. And all you’re working on is to remove obstruction, not to gain something. Can you see that honey? So if you’re working to remove obstructions everything moves very rapidly. If you’re working to gain something, you’re standing in your own way all the time. Answer your question okay? Okay, anybody else got any…

[Marsha: When you mentioned unconditional love you said that it was care, that you could care for everyone.] Care, commitment, whatever words you want to use. [Could you define that a little bit more?] Be pretty hard. (laughter) [But I have difficulty with that.] Well you see, it’s like trying to define the word life, or love, or light. Try them, any of them. You can’t define it. So you’re asking me to define love. I can’t do that. Is it a caring? Yes, I care for people. Is it a commitment to them? Yeah—to life, not to any personality, but to life, okay? [Is it a responsibility to them?] No, you can’t be responsible for anybody else. I can’t go to the bathroom for you, you take care of that yourself. I can’t eat for you, you’ve got to do that. I can sit you a beautiful dinner down in front of you but you got to eat it, right? I can give you a beautiful apartment but you have to sleep in it and use the bathroom, etc., on your own, I can’t do that for you. And I can’t think for you, I can give you information, but you’re the one who has to use it. So it’s not a responsibility, no it’s not a responsible, but if I saw you hungry I guess I would probably try to find a way to feed you. If I saw you thirsty I’d try to get you a drink of water. If I saw you cold I would try to get you some shelter or clothing. And so on down the line. [For how long?] Until I could get you working, and I’d sure be pushing. (laughter) We always try to push people into working. We work on the idea that if you give a hungry man a fish he eats today, if you take him out and give him a fishhook and teach him how to use it, why he eats every day. Okay? So we try to get people working. In the schools we operate, we, uh, allow people to come or see that they can be there, the ones that have been able to get along and kind of lost their way. Do you know what I mean by somebody losing their way? Do you know a lot of people who’ve got a lot of talent, a lot of ability, and everything else, but they lose their way and they’re kind of hung up? That’s the kind of people we take in the schools. So we can get them started and going again. Uh, that’s just one of the kinds, but one which we see a lot of. People who have lost their way.

[Marsha: What do you do? With them?] That would be the rest of the week. I’ve got work to do. Come see me. (laughter)

[Mary: Achieving, getting all that stuff out of you…] It opens doors where you don’t have to ask too many questions (laughter) That’s the first thing to do, get it out. Don’t try to figure what it would it would be like. You know, philosophying what it would be like is a big waste of time, if I may say so.

[I can think it would be kind of lonely.] That’s probably the understatement of 1984. (laughter) But who minds being lonely. [Mary: Well I’m not, I’m conditioned as hell, I’ve got lots of friends around me.] Well I’ve got lots of friends, too, but I’ve also experienced being very lonely now and then. […] Whatever.

[If you like say take someone in, you see that someone needs help and they like being around you and they kind of get a personal strength from you, I mean how do you eventually get them to go, and…] Oh, I’m pretty good at not letting anybody get their hooks in me (laughter) [Do they get angry?] Oh yeah, I get people to laugh about anything. You know, vampires I tell them look, you have to do this in Europe. You can’t do this in the United States. That has to be done in Transylvania. (laughter) Only in Transylvania can you use, can you practice vampirism, you can’t do that here. My energies mine and you can’t have ;it. You’ve got to generate your own. Now, first time we have a chance we’ll go over to Transylvania and use Count Dracula’s little cabin over there and you can do anything then. But over here you’ve got to do it on your own, okay. The rules of the game’s different. We just get them out of it.

[Say if their generator’s broken?] No, I don’t think they’re broken, they just forgot to crank them up. (laughter) Have to crank them up real good. [Well it takes energy to disidentify with all the Not-I’s] Oh, it takes a lot of energy, so we’ll give them a little energy, but I’m not going to let them start living off me. I’ll give anybody a little… [Oh, inertia’s also…] Oh, inertia, that’s lead in the butt, you know (laughter)… real bad. [It’s another Not-I…] Well, it’s a combination of Not-I’s and then pretty soon the Not-I tells them it’s no use doing anything because it won’t work well, that gets down to inertia. Brother Dave Gardner who used to go around give lectures all over the country said “When you see a man down, kick him, that gives him a reason to get up.” (laughter) Remember that, it’s a pretty good way to look at it. (laughter) If you fall down there with him you’ll both be down there. See a guy down, give him a swift kick (noise)
[When she says… (unintelligible) Would you might say that that was being, that that person was being important to her. And you said before that …] Yeah, that whenever you make anybody important then you become anxious and then you’re afraid to let them go, afraid they’ll get pissed at you. (laughter) Disapprove of you and so forth. Let them ago. You know, if they come in, move in on you, fine for a day or two but pretty soon you tell them how to get out the door. (laughter)

[Do you find that you’re being harmless and a good guest and considerate that other people find ways of sorting themselves out…] It helps a lot, yeah, sometimes you have to get them in to doing certain things. But most of the time they do sort themselves out pretty good. Yeah. You get them all laughing pretty good, why it helps… laughter is a great thing. Get them laughing. When they’re serious they all want to sit on your shirttails. I don’t allow serious people around very much.

All right, dear folks, I hope you halfway enjoyed it as much as I have, I have certainly enjoyed being here, I hope sometime three or four years from now you let me come back again. And, uh, meantime, why have a lovely, lovely evening, and I think we have an appointment with about everybody tomorrow, is that right? (laughter). Now I’ll tell you how the tomorrow game works. I’m going to tell you the same thing tomorrow I told you today, I just charge you again for it. (laughter) We’ll try to personalize it a little bit, but, uh, when’s the first one, Robert? [Nine] Nine o’clock. Where is we going to do this. Here. Okay.

Somebody get me picked up and get me over here so I’m here at nine. END.

Way of Power - Part 1