Workshop - The Fourth Way - Part 2 - Phoenix, AZ - date unknown
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Marsha does the original transcribing from cassette tapes or CD’s and others do the final proofreading. We strive to give as close a verbatim transcript as possible, making this a companion to the audio files found in the “Links” section. Dr. Bob’s interesting vernacular is retained – not correcting his grammar and laid back “Kentucky-ese” makes reading it sound like he’s actually talking. He’d say “everone” for “everyone”; or “somewheres” instead of “somewhere” – and much more, all part of his dialect of which we’ve tried to remain true. Notations have been added
where there was audience (laughter) –
he was a master at keeping the mood up!
(Audience participation is parenthesized and separated from his words.)
Emphasized words are in italics.
[Clarifications regarding Dr. Bob’s references, words, or actions are italicized inside brackets.]
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It wasn’t [chuckling] such a good deal, after all. Okay, another question comment, to the point. Yes sir, Ralph.
(I’ve noticed – at least observing me – the not-I’s are not lazy. They have a tremendous amount of energy.)
Oh yes, that’s why you don’t have any – they use it all. (laughter)
(Well, that was the next question – does that subtract from my –)
They use it all because, I said it – they get you to listen to ‘em, they’re sappin’ everything in the house. They’re gettin’ fat at your expense while you scrawny up a little more, see? They take it all, man – that’s why I wouldn’t give ‘em any of it. I just don’t give ‘em any of it ‘cause they’re just tryin’ to take over everything. They want to claim the whole house. Yes, ma’am?
(You talked about feeling good – for example, if you’re playing around as a child and you bring the phone down and smash yourself…I always found that if you got up and ran off to play and forgot about it –)
It didn’t hurt much.
(It didn’t hurt much. But if you looked at it, you know, thought about it –)
Boy, they sat you down on the counter and you cried and everbody give you lots of attention, said, “You poor thing.” Last for weeks, wouldn’t it?
(I don’t know, when I was older, I smashed my first motorcycle, you know, broke my collarbone. Well, I thought nothing of it until my uncle came to get me at the hospital and he was all, you know, sympathetic. And it emotionally upset me to have him go on and on –)
Moonin’ over you.
(– go on and on. Well, I finally said, “Well, leave me at my house and I’ll come down to my grandmother’s when I get ready.” Because I needed to get away from… ‘cause it didn’t really bother me and I knew it but having somebody really–)
They suggested you into being a very injured little lady.
(Yeah.)
Right – horribly damaged and battered.
(Like the boy who fell off his bike and he runs three blocks home before he starts to cry.)
Right.
(Once he hits the front door, he falls –)
And, after all, what he was really crying about was his bike might be bended up. That’s why she was hurt, because her motorcycle was gone to hell in a handcart – it was totaled out. She wasn’t, but the motorcycle was. Right? That’s what really hurt, wasn’t it?
(No I really didn’t hurt at all that bad, luckily.)
Well, I know, but the motorcycle got hurt.
(Yeah.)
Jean?
(I’ve noticed that whenever it’s something I want to do and it’s right now, there’s no problem.)
Right.
(But when I ask, “What is it I want to do?” Oh my God –)
Oh, you get ten thousand questions because that is your job, you see?
Your partner will not change places with you.
It will not take care of the “what,” and you take care of the “how”
because He knows you don’t know the “how.” Besides that,
He’s not interested in the “what.”
And you see, mankind for ages has been trying to turn the world upside down. They’ve always been hollerin’ at the powers that they recognize as being superior, “You tell me what to do and I will do it.” And, of course, they’re ignored because nobody can tell ‘em what to do because that’s your responsibility. So you can’t upset the partnership by trying to turn it around. You know, everybody always thinks the other guy’s got the best end of the deal. So, you know, if you and I had a partnership and I was doin’ all the fillin’ orders and you just got the orders and someday you say, “Well, he’s got it easy – I have to go out here and run all over the place and he just sits there and fills the orders.” But you couldn’t do the job I’m doin’ and so we couldn’t trade; and all of our hagglin’ wouldn’t get us anywhere. But man is always wantin’ something to tell him what to do so that he won’t have to be responsible. But we are responsible.
(You have a solid contract.)
And it’s a contract solid and it’s not gonna break. That’s for sure. And if you don’t want to play with it, why that’s fine; but that’s the way the contract is, okay? You can use it as little or as much as you like, but you can’t break it.
(Only one way to get out of the partnership…is –)
…is get your last breath, right. And I’m not in any hurry to do that; I’m too comfortable around here. Yes, dear?
(When you talk about your purpose and your will – if you decided you want to do a certain thing, then everything that you do to accomplish that, all the guidelines –)
Well, it’s just ways to get it done, you know, somethin’ to talk about. So let’s just say this is what you want to do – now then, you do anything that comes along. If I want to be what to me is a good guest, anywheres I look it’s there, isn’t that right? I’ve never found a place where it didn’t apply yet – where there isn’t what we ordinarily call business or pleasure or anything else – interpersonal relationship or what-have-you. Then there’s no conflict. You don’t have to ask, “What do I think?” say, “What should I want to do?” and get a turmoil go off in your head. You just know what you’re gonna do and go on and do it. But very few of us have ever been allowed to even remotely think of our purpose. We have been so pounded with what we should do, ought to do, have to do, and must do that we’ve never really had time to even… had the permission to think about what do I want to do, is that about right? I haven’t even given that a thought, really. Did you ever?
(Not to any degree.)
Not to any great degree – and then for a very short length of time. Then we go back to the shoulds, the ought to’s, the have to’s and the musts and the must nots, and the have nots, and should nots and ought nots. Then we’re always in a turmoil as to which way we should go and the not-I’s are havin’ a field day. That’s what brings about not-I’s.
If you never had a should, ought to, have to or must,
you have no not-I’s to begin with.
Period. But you got ‘em. And you got the shoulds; but you can quit. You can see, “What do I want to do?” and then that is your will to do it and you and your partner are workin’ perfectly. And you no longer have not-I’s buggin’ you because you haven’t got any place for ‘em to bug about – ‘cause there’s no shoulds, ought to’s, have to’s, musts and that’s what they talk about all the time. Period. Okay, any other question, comment? Yes, sir.
(Don’t you think there’s a time and place for willpower?)
For what?
(Willpower.)
Yes, if you’re loaded with not-I’s, you definitely have a time and place to have conflict, which is willpower.
(Do you think there’s a time and a place for not-I’s?)
No. I don’t want any and I don’t see any reason to have ‘em.
(Well, I don’t want ‘em either, but I –)
Okay, then just don’t have ‘em. No, there is nothin’ constructive about ‘em. Is that what you’re asking? There is absolutely nothing constructive about ‘em.
(Do they play a part in life that’s necessary to–)
No! No. Not unless you think death is necessary, sickness and illnesses and misery and all that – I don’t...
(No, just the opposite –)
No, they don’t do nothin’ – nothin’ worthwhile. No. They’re destructive by nature.
(Not even if they come up with a good idea that you think you’d like to try?)
No.
(They never do that.)
They’ll never come up with a good one. [He chuckles.] They come up and tell you the one that you are going to do that probably wouldn’t work. Or they get you off on a tangle. Or they’ll get you off to fall in love with an idea and tell you how wonderful it is that wasn’t a good idea in the first place – it’s just one you fell in love with. No, they have no useful purpose to life, okay?
(Is there a definite line between the actual I and not-I as far as what you want to do and not having the influence from the not-I of what you want to do?)
Well, they come up with what you should do, ought to do and have to do and this [points to I] is you’re doin’ your own purpose.
(So the not-I could even convince you that what – the suggestion of what you want to do is its idea –)
Oh, but they try everything, but I don’t pay any attention. The first thing I said was get acquainted with ‘em, which is not an easy chore but a very essential one – to get acquainted with their tricks. In other words, if I knew that there was somebody out here or a group of people around town or somewheres in the area, the state, or wherever I work and go, that was attemptin’ to do me in, I’d want to know all about ‘em, wouldn’t you?
(Uh-huh.)
Okay. You got it. So, let’s check it out, get acquainted with ‘em and then you’re not gonna get tricked by their little tricks. They have plenty of ‘em. Now, I tell you they are very cunning – they’re not so bright, but they are cunning, yeah. Okay? Questions, comments? Let’s take a lunch break and we will come back at… get in by a quarter to two – 1:45 and we will start immediately thereafter.
THE FOUR WAYS
The First Way: The Way of the Jungle
[Resuming after break] ...a conflict as to what kind of a world they live in. So, over the ages there has been many different ideas or concepts by which man has lived as to how his society is put together. And over the ages people have come up that there is ways or paths by which people live. Now, frequently the things we talk about is called the “Fourth Way.” Well, a lot of people come and ask me what is meant by that being the Fourth Way – what’s the other ways? Now, there’s many ways to describe that, but I kind of like to take the simplest one.
So, the first thing that started on this planet apparently (or at least as far as we have any history of it) was much the idea of a “jungle.” I am stronger than you are, therefore, I will eat you or I will control you or I will make you do what I want you to do. Then came the idea, of course, that the “survival of the fittest” would be the ruler. So, to the ruler, to the strong, belong the spoils and etcetera. Now, when a new one comes along, it is only a little fragment of it that gets started – it isn’t that the whole thing changes. So, we still have the Law of the Jungle. It is still goin’ on in our midst at every day. Of course, we sometimes call it “crime” these days or crime against persons or crimes against property – that somebody has said, “Well, I’m bigger than you are; I’m gonna take it.” Now, we also have mental abilities. Certain people learn how to use covert hypnosis and control people that way, but only because “I know; you don’t know. Therefore, I’m entitled to control you.” Now, that seems quite well.
The Second Way: The Way of Justice
Now, some four thousand years ago a man came along and said that he’d give ‘em another path. So he said he set before them that day two paths and they could choose which they would. They could continue on the jungle or they could use justice. And he set up a bunch of laws that would indicate justice – an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. If you broke my tooth out, I’d come break yours out, but I wouldn’t kill you – I’d just break your tooth out. You knock my eye out, I’d come knock your eye out – I wouldn’t knock both of ‘em out, just one. And this developed into an idea of “justice.” And this, of course, still to this day we still have that basically in all our courts and etcetera – that if somebody’s playin’ in the jungle, why people who subscribe to this say you got to pay a penalty of some sort or other by livin’ by the Law of the Jungle. Now… or livin’ by the Way of the Jungle… so they’re sometimes put in prison for a few weeks or what-have-you; somethin’ does – give ‘em a fine, whatever.
The Third Way: The Way of Love or Understanding
Then some two thousand years ago, a man came along and said he’d give ‘em two more paths. They could still continue along the line of justice (‘cause I guess he thought that none of these people in the jungle would even be listenin’ to him, anyway.) So then he set out the Way of Love. Love, understanding – which means that I can see that whatever you’re doing, ever have done or ever will do; and that what I have ever done, ever will do or am doing now – that at the moment of doing, I feel it to be right, or proper, or justifiable or I couldn’t do it. So that was called the “Way of Love.”
The Fourth Way: The Way of Being Thankful / The Way of Gratitude
Now, some two thousand years after that, came along another route that said, “Well, you can continue on this Way of Love or you can go on the Way of Justice or you can go on the Way of the Jungle or you can go on still another way.” And this way you might could call the “Fourth Way” or you could call it the “Way of Being Thankful” or the “Gratitude Road.” [writes this on the board.] Now, what one is thankful for is that one has been invited to this tremendous party that’s going on and that you have the freedom to do whatever you want to do. Now, of course, you can even go back and live by the jungle if you want to – there’s a tremendous price to pay for it. You can live by justice and probably get a little accepted by society pretty well. If you live by the “Way of Love,” you will probably be ignored or considered to be a namby-pamby. And if you live by the Fourth Way, everybody wonders what you’re being thankful about (if they should ever catch on.) What you’re thankful for is that you’re a privileged, invited guest here at this beautiful estate called Earth where Life is the host and that you can figure out what you want to do. You’re free to do what you want to do and you can figure it out. So then you have everthing so you’re not working for anything; you’re being thankful for what you already have. We have food, clothing, shelter, transportation, interesting people to be around, interesting things to do ever since you’ve been to this planet, is that right?
We are Aliens on This Planet
Now, it’s also considered in the Fourth Way that mankind is an alien on this planet. It says that he wasn’t even originated here. And now there’s even traces of it way back here – far as you can get any recorded history – that said that man’s job was to subdue and civilize this planet. So, it says he’s an alien – the only creature here that can’t live without makin’ some artificial environment for himself. Now, if a cat walks down the street and he gets sleepy, he can crawl under a bush or whatever comes along and take a nap. Now, you can’t quite do that. First off, you got to get you some clothes because you’re not equipped to live on this planet. You’ll burn up or you’ll freeze, is that right? So you got some clothes. And you build shelters for yourself – you build an artificial environment. We’ve got a temperature gadget here to keep us cool down in here and this winter we’ll use one to warm us up a little bit, right? So, man is an alien on this planet and it was appropriate then when he first arrived that he lived by the Law of the Jungle – he was smarter or stronger or whatever the case. He usually wasn’t as strong as any of the other big animals that lived or mammals on the planet, so he had to use his Intellect to do it. Now, as he went along further he could use his Intellect; then he got it turnin’ into pure unadulterated feeling, and he allowed his feeling out… which means he regressed a bit to those kinds of types of life that was around him. But as he built himself more and more capability of survivin’ on this planet – with buildings, with transportations, with imported food, preserved food, everything. You see, everything else when it gets hungry, it can just go out there and get everything it needs right out of the field. But you can’t quite get all you want, so you got to get it transported and created and all these things.
So, saying that man is an alien would say that he has one thing that he must use above all else is his Intellect. And that his understanding is based upon his Intellect to understand what he is, where he is, what’s going on here and what he can do. Now, one great man who aided in kinda tryin’ to get me taught a little bit would frequently say, “It doesn’t matter what’s happening. It doesn’t matter what went on in the past. It doesn’t matter what’s gonna happen – the whole bit that you need to know is what’s goin’ on here now. If you can see that, then you can get along,” he’d say. So if you can see what’s goin’ on here now, you can handle things. But, you see, we ordinarily don’t look at what’s goin’ on here now. We immediately associate it with something that happened in the past, then so we say somethin’ like “now is then.” So if I was scolded as a little child, I felt that I was very insecure. If somebody should scold me today, do you think I would probably feel insecure? Would you, Jean? If somebody scolded you, you’d feel insecure. Is that acting like “now is then?” Hmm?
So, in seeing that we are aliens here, then it would behoove us to keep our wits about us a wee bit, it would say. So, to see what’s goin’ on is to see we don’t really even… we’re not natural habitats of this planet. If you did, you’d’ve had enough hair on you, you wouldn’t need to put clothes on you. And you would’ve been quite comfortable to lay down in the grass and take a nap or whatever things do – climb a tree and lay on the bark and take a nap. Or you would’ve had all your food supply around you and you would’ve needed to accumulate nothing because you could of went out each day and hunt your food. You see? A fox doesn’t go around accumulating; it just goes out every day and gets some food. A possum goes out today and gets his food. A skunk goes out today and gets his food. He can find a hole he can sleep in so he doesn’t have to accumulate. He doesn’t have to work and use an Intellect to make arrangements so that you could survive. Now, if you were thrown out here somewheres in the desert with no clothes, no tools, and you were left – how long do you think you could survive, Brother Neal?
(Depending on the time of the year…maybe 24 hours.)
Somethin’ like that at the most – sometimes less than that. And so it was pretty obvious you don’t belong on this planet as far as being a natural habitant of it. You were an alien that got here some way, or some of your ancestors. So recognizing that gives you a decided comprehension of what you are about. You’re here to make this thing a fit habitat for a colony of human beings, we’ll say. Now, what kind of a colony do you want? Hmm?
Now, I have a story that came out very recently about…that the person or being who sent us to run the colony was comin’ ever’ once in a while and checkin’ up. And that he was decidedly discouraged, upset, miserable, drank a lot of martinis, and burned a lot of cigarettes up because of the mess we’re makin’ out of the things, generally speaking. Now, if you know what your job is… You know, most of us have a job of some sort or other or some kind of work. And we understand our job definition, then we do it quite well, is that right? Do you know what your job includes doing where you’re working now, do you not?
(Yes.)
And you’ve worked other places and you knew what your job required there. And I think everbody here is of that situation that when you know what your job is, you can carry it out pretty well. Is that right, Perry?
(Yep.)
You can do that, can’t you? Now, if you forgot what your job was or you never did know what it was (nobody let you in on as to what your job was) and you were told to do somethin’ – you were to say, “Well, work here,” but you don’t know what your job is, you don’t know what’s expected of you, you don’t know what you are to do… I wonder what kind of mess you’d make. You’d mess it up and you would be rather upset. Now, over the period of time I think we have basically wandered away from what is our job. What are we doing here? What’s goin’ on?
Now, if you looked that you are a part of a crew that lives on this planet Earth to make it a colony where humans who don’t fit here exactly like the other creatures do – you’re not like a lion or a tiger or a fox or a skunk; you’re an altogether different kind of creature and you can’t survive like they do. That’s pretty obvious, is that right, Miss Donna? You can’t survive like they do, hmm? You gotta have all kinds of artificial things built up so you can survive on this planet instead of bein’ like a skunk who can just run out into the field and go on, is that right?
So if we see that we are in the business of building a colony – an environment for a colony of humans – and that we are responsible for settin’ up some sort of social arrangements for us to live together, I wonder if we would behave the same way as we do now. Linda, how about that? Huh? If you knew what you were about, you would be about it, is that right, hmm?
So probably when mankind first arrived on this planet, it was a jungle and that was the appropriate way to do it. Some 2,000 or so many thousands of years later (no tellin’ how many) certain trainers were sent out from headquarters to establish a little further they could go. Now, this wouldn’t have been possible when they first arrived. Now then, this still has its use, this may still have its use; but only consciously, not as a mechanical reaction because we’re out of times and places. So we’ll say…[indicating the four different “Ways” written on the board:]…here is an age, here is an age, and here is an age, and we’re in another age – and then we’ve had it goin’ along now to start one. Now, in each age the old things maybe have a value under certain circumstances. And there has to be new ones set up. So then it would appear that we could ask ourselves, “What’s goin’ on here?”
Building an Outpost or Colony of Conscious Beings
Now, without stretchin’ our imagination too hard, we can see that we were privileged to come to this new “outpost of conscious beings.” And it is a real new one for conscious beings – intelligent, conscious beings – is the planet Earth. So we have the privilege of being in here. We have a privilege of building something if we want to build it. You can ignore your job if you don’t want to; it’s all right. You can go back and pretend it’s a jungle if you want to or you can pretend any of these other things; but the point is we have really something to do. Now, I think this is why that most people have a big feeling that there is something to do and they don’t know what it is. And so they moan that they don’t know what they want to do because it is something that’s kind of built into us – in our chromosomes and genes and what-have-you – that we want to be about it. I want to be about the business that this colony is set up here. We have that vague feeling. And then we look around and nobody lets us in to what’s goin’ on – we said there’s a big party goin’ and nobody is [letting us in on it], so we are kind of in a mess. So we don’t know what to do. But when we look, it’s fairly simple then: I want to aid in building this colony so that it would be a real worthwhile place for us aliens to exist…and any aliens that we generate here or that might come in from somewheres else, I don’t know.
So what are we? We’re very privileged – invited to be in this big project.
Where are we? On this planet Earth, which is beautiful but, nevertheless, it is not equipped naturally for the human conscious beings to live on. We have to do all sorts of little things to it in order to get along. We could kick off in a minute if we just went out and drank out of all the streams that the animals drink out of and get along fine. You know, they can just drink it and get along fine. You try it once and see what happens to you – you’re in a mess right now. You know, you can watch old cows – 10 or 12 of ‘em walk out in a pond, they answer all the calls of nature and drink water out of the pond and walk on as unconcerned as you please. You go out there and drink some and see what happens to you. And you don’t get along there with it. And you still have certain little microbes and bacteria here, which still affect you. It don’t bother them very much because they’re used to it; but we are real new to it so we still have to make arrangements to sterilize the environment to a certain extent or we can’t get along on it. So we would begin to see, “Yes, I’m at this beautiful estate called Earth, which has been chosen as a colony for conscious beings.”
Now, what’s going on? There is a jillion people that’s workin’ around on this colony and most of ‘em are totally unaware of what they are, where they are, what’s goin on here or what they can do – totally unconscious of it. So they’re a lot of ‘em are livin’ by the Way of the Jungle, a few livin’ by the Way of Justice, an infinitesimal small number by the Way of Love (laughter) which has been pounded at us for 2,000 years maybe. And almost a non-existent number are livin’ by the Way of Gratitude or Thankfulness at all. Now, if I should begin today to begin to build a little bit (I know what I’m doing here, I know what’s goin’ on and I know what I can do) now then I would begin to build a little bit. And having noticed that anything you build is highly contagious, it spreads a little bit. I don’t have to go out and be a preacher or a missionary and pound on people, but I can demonstrate that the Fourth Way does exist – that the Third Way exists, that the Second Way exists and that the First Way exists. Really, they’re all here. But we could begin to advance this colony a little bit by doin’ just a little bit. I can be what to me is a good guest here ‘cause that’s really what I am at this great estate and I have the privilege of doing whatever I want to. Now, what would I do as a member of the colony? I would be considerate of the estate that we’ve taken over (probably by violence, about the only way you take over anything; I imagine that’s the way we started on it was by knockin’ a few things that got in our way out of the way) and that we could begin to see now we can build a little higher type of conscious residency here. It can cease to be so much a colony and begin to be almost a home-site for us.
First, I could be considerate of the estate that we’re on, of the Host who sent us out, of the other guests that’s here with me. And all the other people who can work to aid and build the colony – I could be considerate of those. I can be harmless in that I don’t tear down more than I build. And I don’t have to make a mess, I don’t have to find fault with the other colonists, I don’t have to assume I’m the top one. I have a path and I’m conscious and been given a gift beyond all comprehension to know what’s goin’ on here. I think that’s a gift beyond all capability of puttin’ a value on – just to be able to see what’s goin’ on here, and to see what I am, see where I am, and the whole purpose of this big show. Do you ever wonder what it’s all about, Ralph? Do you ever wonder what it’s all about? What are we doin’ here? You know, I think most everybody struggled with that a little bit – “What’s this life all about here?” Yeah, it’s got a very definite purpose. I don’t know that it’s practical, but it’s very interesting – settin’ up an outpost. I don’t know whether it’s even needed or not; but let’s say we’re here so let’s have fun with it while we’re at it, okay? Now, we can begin to build a place where everybody is conscious of what they are, where they are, what’s goin’ on here and what we can do.
What can we do? Be a part of the colony: I can be considerate, I can be harmless, and I can make some little contribution to it being a home for conscious individuals. Now, we want to be taken over by the powers that were runnin’ this world, which was a jungle when we arrived. They’ve issued out a lot of suggestions to us over the time – that you gotta complain, stick up for your rights, blame. And then when you got beaten up, they said, “Well, you can please everybody and you can quote the authorities of old.” You see, the old ones kind of handed down some stuff but we don’t understand it too much anymore because we’ve forgotten that this is a colony. In fact, they didn’t tell us very much – it’s been around for enough years now we’ve kinda forgotten it was a colony. But in the scheme of things it’s a relatively new colony, a pretty new one. So that’s to be involved in an adventure beyond all comprehension.
Now, don’t take my word for this. Go out and check up and you see if this is what’s goin’ on. You look and see if mankind is a natural occurrence for this planet. Just look it over. You look – a horse can go out and stop anywheres tonight and get along just fine, can’t it? He can stand up and sleep, he can eat, his food is all around him. Now, you can’t go out there and get all your food. In fact of business, you can’t even eat most of the food that the cats and the rats and the things eat – if you eat it, you gotta process it, you gotta do something to it. Did you ever try eatin’ a raw rat? Did you ever eat a raw cow? Did you ever go catch a chicken and eat it, feathers and all? You gotta process all that stuff, don’t you? See, you’re not equipped to handle it but they can just sit down right there and eat it. Cat catch a chicken, what do they do with it? Do they go clean it and dress it and wash it, fry it, bake it, stew it or do they just sit down and eat it? You can’t do that. You see, you don’t belong here. Now, you gotta process everything you come in contact with.
So, consequently you get carried away and forget the reason that we have clothes and that we have houses, and that we have transportation, that we have refrigeration. We have all these gadgets, which is the only way we could make it a home for a conscious individual from some other realm. We don’t belong here. Now, you look it over and I think it’ll check out that we just don’t quite belong here. We’re not equipped to live in it anywheres without a lot of processin’. That correct? Can you think of anywheres? Leo, you’ve had a chance to travel around over the planet quite a bit, probably as much or more than anybody here. Did you ever find a place that you could exist without tools, without clothing, without shelter, without sanitation or something. Hmm? Not once. So we don’t belong here. But it is close enough that we can survive on it with the aid of intelligence. We can do some processing to the environment, to everything around us – [someone enters the room] come in, Dennis – and finally get along with it a little bit. And we can have a home.
But now what kind of a home is it you want? Do you want the jungle? Do you want the justice of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth? Do you want the one that “I understand him but he still broke my neck,” or do you want the Fourth Way? In other words, we have come to that stage in existence where it is really the only intelligent one for the ones who are conscious of what they are and where they are and what’s goin’ on is to live by the fourth route of Gratitude: I am thankful I’m here, I’m thankful I’m involved in this big game and party. I am considerate of the estate ‘cause it’s easily damaged ‘cause we have to process it so much. See, the cats and the dogs and the mice and the elephants and so forth don’t have to process it a bit. We got to do all sorts of things in order just to live on the durn thing, isn’t that right? So we are rather takin’ something fragile to us because it has to be processed so much is why we make messes on it a little bit. But we can begin to see those a little bit.
And now do you have to wonder, “What do I want to do?” Hmm? Could that answer the question for anybody who wonders, “Well, I don’t know of anything I really want to do,” hmm? It’s sittin’ there starin’ at us in the face. Do we want to continually to build this outpost to where it is a home for intelligent spiritual beings and not just the jungle creatures? Now, the jungle’s still gonna exist and there is people who are constantly drug back into the jungle area. There is others who are totally involved with the Second Way. There is an infinitesimal number who talk about the Third Way. Now, we’d like to see if there is a few people who would consciously take on the Fourth Way, the Way of Thanksgiving and the way of consciously being what to us is a good colonizer or a good guest. Which means the same – to be harmless, to be considerate and to make some little contribution to the whole new estate so there’s all the things that makes a decent home for aliens. Okay, let’s have your comments, your questions, your challenges, and your “pfft,” if you want to. But check it out first. Questions, anybody one?
(You said that we were possibly coming to the end of the Thankful –)
No, it’s the start of it…it’s just really the start. It’s probably been around for less than a hundred years, which is nothing.
(Would there be another one beyond this?)
I don’t know. I have no way to support seeing 2,000 years down the road. However, I have noticed that most things when we get four of something, we got it pretty well set up: Initiative, Resistance, Form, and Result. As long as all four are not there, there’s still more to come. When you get to four, it seems like you’ve pretty well got that completed or perfected. [Indicating the four “Ways” written on the board] Now let’s face it, this one isn’t perfected by any means even though it’s been around 4,000 years. This one we said is only talked about a little bit after 2,000 years and this one is practically an unknown because it’s only been around at the most somethin’ like a hundred years – at the most… maybe. Maybe not that much. Yes, ma’am?
(What is initiating the change – the start of it?)
Somebody came out from headquarters and said, “They aren’t doin’ very well so let’s try this on for a little bit.” Somebody comes out from headquarters ever’ once in a while to see how the colony is gettin’ along and they’re usually pretty disturbed with it. But they said even if 10 would do this, then it would be all right to start this one. And if they got 10 doin’ this, it’d be all right to start this one. So otherwise they would never know about it. So, you keep goin’ on, this – much of the world is still in jungle. Not all of it by any means, but still the jungle ideas rule. You got more money, more physical strength, more firepower, more guns, then that makes it right. And of course, we like to talk about justice a bit, but you have an attorney out here in Sun City who wrote a book and in it…you know, that story about “Virginia, is there a Santa Claus?” And he wrote, “Yes, Virginia, there is justice; but she’s in the broom closet outside while the show goes on in the courtroom.” So don’t fret about that. Justice is there, but she’s fastened up in the broom closet somewheres down in the basement of the courthouse. So there’s not too much of that but, nevertheless, even though there is only 10, it’s worth starting a New Age. Only 10 is worth starting a New Age.
This story’s told in the story of Abraham long ago when he was tryin’ to intercede for Sodom and Gomorrah. And the people from headquarters said they was gonna blow the joint off the map and he started off, “Well now, if you could find 50 just men,” (they was only talking about justice then instead of the jungle) and they finally said, “For 50.” Then he pleaded down to 40 and then to 30 and then to 20 and finally he said, “If you could just find 10.” He said, “For 10 we will spare it.” They couldn’t find 10, so they blowed the thing up. (laughter) And so “blow her off.” So these were the folks from headquarters come along. They do do this, but they’re willing to start a New Age for the sake of an infinitesimal small number of people because only a small number makes seed. If you had 10 seeds of some plant that’d never grown on this Earth and you planted ‘em and you took care of it – you could populate the whole planet from those 10 seeds.
So it is nice to say that, “All right, I have the opportunity of being a seed, that I can by my own individual efforts…” (I don’t have to get an organization, I don’t have to get organized and get a big fund started, I can do it today, right here, anywheres I walk about) “I can start the Fourth Way goin’. I can be considerate. I can be harmless. I can make a little contribution simply because I’m thankful that I’m in on the action.” What more do you need? I think that’s about the luckiest stunt we ever had. I think we are so fantastically fortunate and lucky that we have no way of conceiving how much we are. Another question, comment? If I got to have somethin’, I’m not goin’ to fuss about havin’ it – a zit on my face once in a while or an ingrown toenail or somethin’ –
(What if we want to talk to headquarters?)
Well, you can talk anytime you want to; but they’re not prone to take advise. It’s better to listen.
(Oh, yeah.)
It’s much better to listen to headquarters. When you’ve got somethin’ to say, it’ll probably be somebody will listen to you, okay?
(Well, that’s not what I meant – I meant to communicate.)
Yeah. That’s what I’m talkin’ about – listen. Truthfully, we outlanders have very little to communicate back to headquarters. They know more about it than we do; but it is well to listen once in a while. And headquarters does send you out a message every so often and information. And they have already had the feedback before they sent the message – so they really don’t need your and my feedback, okay?
(I recently saw the Aztec calendar briefly explained – they talk about an age, the change to an upper level will come in 1986 or something like that. It’s interesting because they do say each change is supposed to take people up to a higher level of –)
It don’t “take” ‘em, honey, it makes it possible.
(Well –)
Period.
(Right.)
We all have our own freedom and nobody’s gonna grab you up like you were a pig and put you in one of the upper story pigpens. It’s entirely up to us. Yes, it is possible. In other words, over an eon of time – or an age of some 2,000 years – then more material is given if there’s anybody to receive it. But that don’t mean the people will be lifted up. That’s an interpretation thereof – like the “Golden Age,” you know? You know about the Golden Age? People look back to a Golden Age and look forward to one, which is wonderful as long as we recognize we are responsible to put the Golden Age in and not just feel it’s gonna happen because so many thousand years went by, okay? Well, I think that that calendar you’re talkin’ about – it’s a most interesting and delightful piece of work. It tells Ages pretty well. But an “Age” only says the germ was set there, it doesn’t say that we were all grabbed up and dumped here whether we were ready to or not.
(I didn’t mean to give the impression – when they talk about this human sacrifice, it goes particularly that a few will change –)
Yeah, but most of ‘em stay back in the jungle and cut heads off to appease this two-headed god they had that wasn’t gonna do anything for ‘em, but would make a lot of mischief if they didn’t please him. So they had to sacrifice a lot of people for him ever’ day – that’s still the jungle. So more people are always tryin’ to go back to the jungle at all times. Now, that was the original chore, no doubt, on this planet – was to fight with the jungle so we could get it over a little bit and get a toehold in. You know, get a beachhead set up and get started goin’. So we all kind of vaguely remember that and, at the drop of a hat, we’ll go back to the jungle methods. We’ll try the jungle way in just almost any minute. Anytime you’re complainin’, stickin’ up for your rights and so forth, you’re goin’ back to the jungle methods. Right now. Right? Right – the jungle. Yes, ma’am?
(Do we have the potential to evolve and go back to headquarters?) (laughter)
We have a potential to wake up. (laughter) We have a potential to wake up and do our job – which would probably be equivalent to be in headquarters. But I don’t know what’s back at headquarters – it may have caved in. Who wants to go back there? They wouldn’t start a colony if it weren’t so durn hot. So they run out of water and out of gasoline and out of fuel and everything got shortage – everbody got cancer and everbody got arthritis, disease was back and so they sent out an outpost. What do you want to go back there for?
(Sounds like a drag.) (Laughter.)
That’s why they left headquarters so let’s make this better than headquarters was, okay? I don’t wanna go back there. I want to be involved in makin’ this a nice one, okay? Is that good enough? That’s good enough. And I like to be conscious of what I’m doin’, okay? Not just being drug along. Somebody had a hand up over here. Yes, sir.
(What happened to the “love” era?)
Oh, it’s still goin’ on – haven’t you heard a few people talkin’ about it?
(Yes, I have.) (Laughter.)
It isn’t practiced much, but they’re still talkin’ about it; and especially for you to do it. You know, I like to give you advice for you to do it. ‘Course I’m gonna live by the jungle method but now it would be a lot nicer if you live by love because then I could kick you around and you wouldn’t fight back. That’s the way they want to do it. There’s mostly talkin’ about it, very little livin’ on it – except 10 people maybe tried to work on it. When 10 could really live with the love then it was time for the next time – the one of Thanksgiving. So there’s not many of ‘em around. But they talk about it a lot – you read the word all the time, don’t you? And you can hear it, but you don’t see much of it. Yes?
(Under certain situations would it be possible to use the jungle method?)
Oh, I imagine there might be moments you might do that. Yes – if somebody insists on being in the jungle, throw ‘em back in there. There is certain people that insist on bein’ in the jungle and they don’t want to do nothing with any of the other three paths, throw ‘em back to the jungle. No problem. I wouldn’t see any particular trouble in that. Ralph?
(Are these ages talked about – all four of these – in, say, books that were written before a particular age came about?)
No, there is only kind of an indication that another age will arise, yes. Each time there’s always an age that it will arise. And the messenger will arrive from headquarters with another message. They don’t say what it’s gonna be or how it’s gonna be but they do say it’ll be here, yes. ‘Cause seemingly somebody that came out from headquarters wrote there’s gonna be a guy – it maybe takes 2,000 years to get from headquarters to here. That’s why they’re so infrequent, I don’t know. Yes, sir?
(Does the Fourth Age of Thankfulness sort of encompass all Ages?)
The Fourth Way.
(The Fourth Way – does it encompass all of the others?)
No, but I think it would make a person capable of using the others if the occasion should arise consciously – not mechanically.
(So does each individual have the capability of –)
Oh, you sure have the potential of performin’ on any one of the levels, yes sir – any one of the ways, that’s true. But now a person that was here…[indicating the Way of Love] could only – if they were really proficient at it – could perform on any of those. And this one [the Way of Justice] only those two and the jungle, only the jungle. Only this one [the Fourth Way] would be free to use all of ‘em. And only in a “consciousness” place. Okay? Another question, comment?
So do you want to live on the Fourth Way? That’s kind of worthwhile and you never have to wonder, “What should I do?” You always know what you can do right now and it’s always very worthwhile at the moment – to aid a building of, shall we say, a community for conscious living beings. I think it’s kind of worthwhile. Let’s take a little break for, oh 10 minutes. So everbody quit askin’ questions, I quit. Take 10-15 minutes and we will ask you before you run out the door – when you come back in, there is plenty of paper up here and I’ll open up a clean sheet. You don’t need to put your name on it or anything. Set it down there and say, “I would like to talk about this,” and we’ll put it on there. If there’s nothin’ on there, we’ll say it’s been nice seein’ you and I’ll walk out the door.
[Resuming after the break]
Somebody put a question said “Headquarters?? (with a couple of question marks after it) Source?” Headquarters probably is another place where human beings live but so far hasn’t been located by people who are out lookin’ for it. And it may already be out of existence, who knows? I don’t know.
(How can they send messengers?)
Well, it may take quite a while to get here. No, I don’t know, they…
(The messenger could arrive here and not have any place to go back to.)
That’s very possible – highly possible. [Reading another question on the board:] “How long have you been involved with the Teaching?” Is that a question I suppose is directed at me. Well, I don’t like to talk about years because every time I notice that I’m gettin’ a little older, time goes faster, and I’m afraid if I thought of it once in a while, it’d go a lot faster. It’s been a long time. I don’t see that that makes a whole lot of difference any way or the other. But let’s say it’s been as many years as most of you are old around here, anyway.
[Reading another question:] “Information sent from headquarters to be received by what means?” Premonition I guess, visions, whatever. “Please clarify.” It is taught by somebody talkin’ to you. It is not anything unusual, mystical, or anything else. There’s always been a visible human being or a group of human beings who came and talked in as plain and as simple language for that particular Age as they could talk it. Moses was the messenger that talked about “justice,” and he was obviously a human being. And a man called Jesus [in this first reference, he pronounces it the Spanish way sounding like: “Hay-seuss”] the Christ came and very much a human being and walked around. And the people who are givin’ the information on the Fourth Way are human beings. So you don’t get it by intuition or “frutition” [fruition] or anything else. It is somebody talkin’ to you, givin’ you information, which you can check out, use, operate on, or experiment. Now, always they want you to remember that it is the information that has a value and which you can check up on, and not the person who gave it to you. So they asked a simple question that – “Do you buy a can of pork and beans for the can or for the pork and beans?” Do you want the container or do you want the contents? Which one do you buy the pork and beans for, Ralph, assuming you buy one once in a while? For the beans or do you eat the can?
(Beans.)
You eat the beans, okay. What do you buy groceries in cans for? Do you buy some once in a while? Do you save the cans or do you throw those out in the trash and use the contents? So, it is the contents that count, not the container. Now, we all have pretty much the history of the man named Jesus that taught the Third Way. They tried to make a god out of him and all sorts – his mother was a virgin, and he never did die, or if he did, he got up and walked off, and all this – which is for you to worship him and not pay any attention to the method. And that’s what screwed it all up.
So, everbody that I have met involved in the Fourth Way has been a reprobate of the first water. You wouldn’t want to deify him in any way. The ones that can (and don’t fall down with it) drink a lot of booze and they smoke cigarettes and they do all sorts of things that you wouldn’t go along and deify ‘em. And that is by design because they don’t want you to get confused with the message – with the contents with the container. So please don’t ask questions about the container. Please confine your questions to the contents. The contents you can check up on and, I’ll guarantee you, you will never be able to check up on the containers. They are invisible in a way that you can’t go back and find their background. A man come trucklin’ in my office the other day and plopped down a manuscript about yea thick he had received by some kind of “divine”, unusual ways, a meaning. He said he was sittin’ readin’ a book and a voice popped in his head said, “Get up and get pencil and paper.” He ignored it and it screamed at him, “Get up and get a pencil and paper!” So he run got the pencil and paper and it begin to dictate to him. Well, it had a chapter on Bob Gibson in it and it gave his background. And I will assure you that whoever gave him the intuition or whatever it was he got, didn’t know his way in out of the rain. (laughter) So however, it will get published and no doubt a lot of people will buy it. But I will assure you, if you ever read the book (and I think it’s called “The Children of the New Jerusalem” or somethin’ or other) you will find Bob Gibson mentioned in it. And I will assure you that that portion of his intuition was as squirrely as any other not-I junk I’ve ever heard. (Laughter) So the idea is, please, the whole information is the material that’s there.
Now, if the people would’ve ignored the teacher of the Third Way and the various teachers of the Third Way, and had paid attention to the contents, the Fourth Way would probably have arrived a thousand years ago. But everybody got carried away with the container. And you’re still until this day told that your salvation depends upon believin’ something unusual about the container and nothing is really mentioned about the contents. Is that correct? I went to church once and that’s what I heard. (laughter) Is that what you heard? Did you go? Did you go?
(Once.)
Is that what it’s all about? You believe on the container, the can is all important and you really have heard very little about the contents. Is that correct? Now, I’m not knockin’ anything or anybody; we’re just pointing out that, you see (and I’m not pickin’ on anybody) but the questions here was all about the containers, and nothin’ really about the contents. So, let’s stick with the contents. And the containers I will assure you of the Fourth Way are all puttin’ on a role of bein’ a reprobate. You wouldn’t want to mimic ‘em – that’s all there is to it. And nobody has to accept anything “holy” about them because they don’t do it that way. And that was done by design and on purpose that there is nothing holy and righteous put on about it. And I’ll get you (if you ever should care to) will get you a list of the ones that have propagated the Fourth Way.
One question was put forth: “Was there a reference to the Fourth Way in the Bible?” No, only said that there would be another Way brought and that other messengers would arrive. And the messengers did arrive, did look over the situation, and decided that to not have any more holier-than-thou stuff about them. And no doubt some of them will get now after they’re gone, departed, dead – whatever word you want to use – they’re beginnin’ to make them into some pretty unusual characters. But what counts is the message – not who brought the message. Okay? Now, that’s all the questions here and I said I’d quit when I got the messages, but I will stick around a minute and see if you can think of another one now about the contents. If you don’t, I will give you a quick discussion about something or other and I think maybe you might could use it. But first let’s see if there is any questions. Yes, ma’am?
(Okay, now we don’t always have these people around us – say when we come up with a…when we go to sleep.)
Oh well, just wake up. For sure, you don’t have to have somebody to hold your hand every time you go to sleep, do you?
(No, but it’d be kinda nice, you know, when you have a question, to have somebody to ask –)
Well, we have a gadget that’s put to work on this planet called a “telephone.” It’s been used for quite a while now and was invented to get along with. You see the natives didn’t need one, but the idiots (definitely, just to do what you just said) needed a means of quick trans-communication at great distances. So instead of waiting until they develop “telepathy” where it was dependable – which it is not – we have telephones which is the “tele-” part of this thing, you see? So instead of having “-pathy” you have “-phone,” okay? And you can always dial somethin’ like eight digits and get just about anybody anywheres, is that all right?
(In other words, you go back to the –)
And if you got something you want to rattle on and you’ve gone to sleep, why get a hold of one of these things called a telephone. And you either push the buttons or spin the dial on it and you can talk to somebody anywheres, is that right?
(Yes.)
Okay. It’s a nice little invention for that purpose. So you always have somebody available for you when you go to sleep, is that right, Lorene? All you got to do is use that little gizmo, okay? And there is a great many people use it for that purpose and it is a useful purpose, okay? So you don’t have to say, “Well, there is nothing I can do.” You can always walk to the little gizmo, spin some numbers, and very shortly you will have somebody to talk to that’ll aid you in waking up or doin’ whatever you want to do. Is that all right?
(Is that the only way of communication that –)
Well, I didn’t say it’s the only way but it’s the one Bell Telephone Company would rather you would use. (Laughter) And it’s a very dependable way – let’s put it like that, hmm?
(In other words, you don’t rely on your own – on getting yourself awake?)
Well, you try everything you can to get yourself awake, but I said if you feel you really need somebody to talk to (which is what you started out with on your question) well, there is a gadget to aid and abet that so that you can do it at any time. Isn’t that correct now? Now, first try all your own resources and if you can’t quite get out of it, feel free to call some of the guys that’s (men or women) that’s involved in it, and they will certainly be more than happy to work with you, and not be fussin’ at you or anything else, okay?
(By ones “involved” with you don’t mean like those –)
Well, the ones that you feel might be able to aid you to wake up, okay?
(Oh, all right.)
Okay? It doesn’t matter which one, but if you know of one in particular that you would rather talk to, they are available, okay? Does that answer your question, dear? Now, it’s like somebody in a little talk I gave the other day said they wanted to be able to go to New York on a flyin’ carpet. And I said, “Well, that’s quite easy. I haven’t been to New York lately, but the last place I went, I went on a flying carpet.” I sat on a carpet and it flew. I had a chair on top of the carpet and I just sit there very comfortably and it went where I wanted to go. You know, when you hear these things, people assume that people went on flying carpets. Well, it merely means the carpets you were standing on, sitting on, or had your chair on was flyin’. But wouldn’t it be a mess if you went flying through the air on a little runner out of the living room or the bathroom doorway or somethin’ and took off flyin’ on the thing? And you’d get bugs in your face and all kinds of things.
(Now, you mentioned the – one time about – the Host was throwin’ a party and He invited all these people and they wouldn’t come so He went out in the hedgerows and invited –)
That’s probably the way we got here – they invited some good ones to come that really knew how to set up a colony, and they wouldn’t come so they brought us instead. And so we’re here and we can do a fair job of it anyway, can’t we?
(Okay, now connect that with this.)
Well, same thing, it’s just how come we got invited instead of somebody else? The smart ones wouldn’t come.
(Oh!)
The same story is Noah built an ark and he invited all the people to come get on it, but none of ‘em would come, you know; and they all got...
(Soaked.)
Yeah, same difference – same story. Now, what else? Ralph?
(Bob, it appears that man functioning as he was designed is extremely simple and uncomplicated –)
And get with it and take care of what his job is. He knows what his job is.
(Is there any purpose as to…it comes out a “why” question but…it’s so obscure that it’s been so well –)
How come everybody doesn’t know what’s going on?
(Right – it’s so – uncomplicated.)
Well, simply they got so busy trying to survive in an alien environment that they got carried away with just the one thing and didn’t see that they were to build a whole new home. They was just workin’ like bein’ on a picnic. You know, it’s easy to forget when you’re goin’ on a campin’ trip that you’re just there to go campin’, not to put up a new colony. So it’s just basically that the whole thing kind of drifted out. Now, you’ve been reminded of it for thousands of times all your life but you never paid much attention to it, okay? That’s all. So we’re tryin’ to remind very strongly what’s there. Is that all right? That’s all.
Our Existence Consists of: Nutrition, Activity, Environment, Inner Feeling
One of the things that aliens living on this planet do is that they get what’s not natural for them – they get sick. And they usually have some very strange ideas of why they got sick because they got a lot of jungle teaching. So, in order to survive on this planet, it is interesting to know somethin’. [Starts writing on the board] Now, our state of being is always balancing to the state of our existence. Now, here our existence consists of: An Environment; our Inner Feeling; our Activity; and our Nutrition. Now, as we said, the food supplies here are not quite ready for us. We have to process most of it a little bit – not all of it, but a great amount of it you have to process it before you can use it adequately. That’s correct, isn’t it? You know of anything besides humans that cook? Hmm? Is that right? You know, the natural state here was to eat what’s around and everything does except man – he has to process it, he has to cook, and he has to preserve and all sorts of other things. So when one checks the environment out, the environment is not exactly for our being until we do some processing on it. We build shelters, we put clothing on, we do a number of things. We rearrange it, we plant it, move plants, do all sorts of things to make it more comfortable, which means more healthy for you, is that right, Jean? You do that, don’t you? All the time.
So one can work on the environment. Now we’re not equipped, probably, with the amount of gravity on this one so when we fall over, we have a tendency to injure ourselves. We get bumped. Now if you had a much less gravity, it wouldn’t jolt you as hard, is that right? If you had less gravity, you wouldn’t get jolted as hard if you fall down or what-have-you. And when you go up a stairway, it wouldn’t take as much effort to run up the stairway if the gravity was less. So, apparently we came from… “homeland” was less gravity ‘cause we’re kind of beat up by this one. So we have to watch certain things to see that we don’t allow the physical structure to be distorted. It’s gonna get distorted, but we certainly can see to straighten it around once in a while.
Our inner feeling is to be one of – which we looked at here – the new way, the Fourth Way – would be one of “gratitude.” Now, if you went around with an inner feeling of gratitude instead of all this anxiety and worry and frustration and anger and jealousies and all those things, you would feel a lot different, is that about right? You recognize that.
[Break in tape] It tears you up, doesn’t it? But if you’re doin’ it because you want to, you feel wonderful. So activity is to be what you want to do. Now, boredom is not something you want to do, so just sittin’ bored is not very healthy activity either.
Nutrition is to do with what we have available to the best of our ability. And it seems like the Life within us tells us what we need if we’ll allow ourselves to get hungry. Now, after having long centuries of being always a little short of food, now that we have worked on the planet and fixed it up enough now that we have a pretty (mostly parts of the world) an assured food supply, we overdo it. We don’t ever allow ourselves to get hungry anymore. And if you don’t get hungry, you have no way of hearing from X within. The Life Principle is the one with the adequate nutrition for you. When you allow yourself to get hungry, you get hungry for something.
(Wait now – I should fast so I can get hungry?)
I know the “should.” I didn’t say you “should”; I said not “fast” either. I said “allow yourself to get hungry,” (if you fast, you don’t get hungry; you get so you can’t eat) which means merely maybe that we postpone eating a little while until you get hungry. And when you get hungry, you’ll get hungry for something. Now, it’s not because you should or ought to or because of anything else. It’s somethin’ you can find out for yourself so you will have adequate nutrition, okay? Now, it don’t mean to fast – that, you see, you’re gonna go overboard the other way. Somebody said, “Wait’ll you get hungry.” Well, if the only way you can think of to get hungry is fasting, fast – you’ll get hungry but it goes away in a heartbeat, okay? If you fast three days, you have a hard time startin’ eatin’ again – everything looks revolting. So don’t – you have no business fasting. Now, let’s leave all the “shoulds” and “ought to’s”…but you could postpone the first time you feel it’s time to eat because it’s 7 o’clock, 12 o’clock or 6 o’clock in the evening. And let it go for a little while until you get hungry and see what you’re hungry for, okay? ‘Cause we have learned – Life has learned here – what we can eat on this planet that will pretty well supply what we need, okay? But don’t make a “should” or “ought to” or “have to” out of this – that’s always backwards.
Now, when we do that we would find there is a state of being, which is generally called “well-being,” and we wouldn’t have so many of all these endless numbers of aches, pains, miseries and etcetera that we usually come up with. And that makes it a little easier for us to be about our business. The business that we’re here for is to build a home, which would be somethin’ like that for us anyway, okay? With the nicest, possibly, second colony you could get out there, okay? Okay, is there any questions, comments, discussions, etcetera? Yes, ma’am?
(Bob, I heard you and you said it again that if you wait long enough to eat something –)
You get hungry.
(You get hungry –)
...for something.
(For something. Okay. But you said communication with –)
X within, not headquarters back on where you came from – Life presence.
(Okay, now then...one that I want to –)
It has been communicating with you for years – it tells you when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when for you to take a little exercise and so forth. It communicates with you not with English words, but with a very definite “feel-ing” sensation. Have you ever been hungry?
(Yeah.)
It was – what was it, a sensation, wasn’t it?
(Yeah.)
Have you ever been thirsty? Now, would you know when to get thirsty if there wasn’t somethin’ told you that it needed water for its body?
(No.)
No way. So you have been in communication with X all these years but it’s not gonna talk to you in the English language or not even in Spanish – not even in Italian of the Vatican, okay? Or Sanskrit…but it tells you in no uncertain terms, “Hey, Lorene, get some water. Hey, Lorene, get some food.”
(Okay, now that’s the only time that it tells you “what” –)
Well, it’s only what’s required for the body, that’s all. It’s not gonna tell you to go earn your livin’ as being a...whatever. It’ll let you do that any way you want to – that it’ll take care of the “how.” But now it does know how to operate this machine called the body.
(And that’s the only time it –)
I believe that’s about the only time it talks to you, isn’t it? You’ve been around for what, 30 years almost now?
(Long as I have.)
That’s what I’m talkin’ about – some part of the bod’s been around and have you ever heard it talk any other way? Or is it just tell you how to keep this carcass going awhile, okay? That’s all. It communicates with you okay. And when you’re doing something that is destructive to the body, it gives you a sensation called “pain” and it says, “About time you check up on what you’re asking me to do. But I’ll go on and do it if you want to keep on doing it.” If you drink booze heavily every day, pretty soon it’s telling you that this is wreckin’ it – but it’ll keep on gettin’ the booze and drinkin’ it every day if that’s what you say you want to keep on doin’, okay? But it is tellin’ you by decidedly discomfort that it would be well if you checked up on your lifestyle, okay? That’s all – no conversation. Okay? Other question, comment? Yes, sir.
(Have you written any books?)
No, I don’t think so… There’s one or two around that’s got some kind of name on it, which you may have – one called Headlines and one called Notes on Personal Integration and Health (http://marshasummers.com/innerman/images/Notes%20on%20Personal%20Int.%20and%20Health.pdf) and some things like that. I wouldn’t recommend anyone buy ‘em but they are available. (laughter) They are available if you want ‘em, and they do talk about the things we’ve been talkin’ about, okay?
(Do you have any more of those “Transformation” ones?) [referring to a poster] (http://www.marshasummers.com/innerman/transformation.htm)
Oh yeah, there’s plenty of those.
(Where? Where can I get one?)
Order them from the same place you order all the rest of ‘em…[He gives an address that is no longer current.] We got some of ‘em at the house. You can call Rosemary. She has some. Call her and she has some. She’ll deliver ‘em immediately – cash on the barrelhead, five bucks a throw. And they are pretty, aren’t they?
(Oh, very.)
And they do say it pretty accurately.
(Right.)
Okay, that’s where you get the whole thing all in one shake. Suitable for framing, I feel. That’s calligraphy on parchment – very elegant – that’s ones handwritten, you know. Okay, any other questions, comments?
Dear folks, I have enjoyed being here as always and do have a lovely evening. And do assist in buildin’ the colony. It’ll keep you busy, keep you from chasin’ cars, gettin’ bored, aggravated, and you’ll always know what to do, okay? Thank you very much.
[End of The Fourth Way – CD #2 of 2]