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From Disidentifying Workshop at Jim’s <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

 CD 1 around 1 : 01<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00a0[from Marsha\u2026..Long ago when I started taking voice lessons, my mentor said he thought I had a learning disability.\u00a0\u00a0 I really took that to heart and believed it; but as I continued with the 48 tapes, I realized that I was trying to learn through much criticizm I had experienced from my father as I was growing up.\u00a0\u00a0 No matter what I played or sang, he would find fault.\u00a0\u00a0 As a result my throat would close up whenever I sang preparing for the onslaught of disapproval; but the desire to perform was greater than the fear of disapproval; and thanks to the teachings and my mentor, I did it anyway and was amazed when people said they loved my voice.\u00a0 It took a while to accept that they meant what they were saying. \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I had a piano student who had trouble with her lessons.\u00a0\u00a0 She kept saying that her teachers in school said she was a \u201cslow learner\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0 She would come for a while and then quit, come for a while then quit.\u00a0\u00a0 I gave her what encouragement I could, but the script in her head was too strong.\u00a0 She was unable to question what she had been told.\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So when I found this experiment Dr. Bob did with a teacher, I was thrilled.\u00a0\u00a0 I wish all teachers would be willing to run this experiment so that children could reach the epitome of potential and talent within them<\/em>\u2026..<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So here goes with the experiment\u2026.]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

One time in Albuquerque, I\u2019ve worked with a schoolteacher.\nShe wanted to get her master\u2019s degree, and she didn\u2019t feel she was wantin\u2019 to\nwrite it, so I took on the chore for a few bucks to write the thing, and we have\nset up the experiment. It was on slow learning children.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So we took the fastest learning children and the slowest\nlearning children:  divided them into two\nreasonable groups for conversation.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now we told the ones that was fast learning that they would\npass if they said, \u201cI don\u2019t know,\u201d or answered correctly. But if they answered\nincorrectly, they would be flunked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And we took the slow learning ones and told them if they\nanswered anything, they would pass. The only time they wouldn\u2019t get along is if\nthey didn\u2019t say anything. If you said, \u201cHow do you spell cat?\u201d and he didn\u2019t\nknow and he said, \u201cFour, five, seven,\u201d why, he would get pass, see? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And so when the smart kids come along and one of em, you\nknow, the teacher would ask something, he\u2019d hold his hand up and he knows the\nanswer. And he\u2019d answer and she\u2019d say, <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAre you sure that\u2019s correct, you wanna stick with that?\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And he\u2019d say, \u201cYeah.\u201d \n<\/p>\n\n\n\n

She said, \u201cAre you real sure?\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And he\u2019d say, \u201cNo, I didn\u2019t answer at all.\u201d That was the\nsmart one. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The slow ones could say anything. They got passed, anyway. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And you know, it completely reversed the slow learners and\nthe fast learners \u2013 just by making them doubt whether their answers were\ncorrect \u2013 on the smart ones.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, I\u2019ve delved into the not-I\u2019s that have been working on\nme to set up the experiment. And  there\nwas one that always come up and said, \u201cAre you sure?\u201d Okay? That\u2019s a not-I,\nokay? Do watch him. He don\u2019t mean a thing \u2013 he\u2019s just another not-I. There\u2019s a\nnot-I down there that\u2019s sayin\u2019, \u201cAre you sure?\u201d (laughter) Try to throw doubt\nin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now what we are trying to observe, that as number one, when\nwe objectively observe, you meet with tremendous opposition from the not-I\u2019s,\nokay? They use every hypnotic trick in the game. And they will use \u201cdoubting,\u201d\ntry to instill doubt in I \u2013 that\u2019s one of the better ways to hypnotize. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Would you say that we hypnotized all those kids in that\nclassroom? Made them doubt their ability to answer the questions. Some of them\nyou had to do three times before he would really doubt. We\u2019d say, \u201cDo you know\nthe answer?\u201d Let him answer now. \u201cAre you sure that\u2019s the right answer? And you\nremember what happened?\u201d Now you\u2019re trying. You say, \u201cAre you real sure now?\u201d\nBut much less sure that time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You say, \u201cAre you real real sure, ____\u2013 do you wanna stick\nwith that? Or you rather say you don\u2019t know?\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI don\u2019t know.\u201d (laughter) <\/p>\n\n\n\n

You see, you can wreck his whole self confidence in a matter\nof seconds, all right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now the rest of the story is that we got em all back where\nthey all were free to answer anything \u2013 we told them what the story was. And\nthat teacher until this day has no slow learners in her class. They come in but\nthey don\u2019t go out as slow learners. \u2018Cause nothing is made important down\nthere. It\u2019s a game. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

But the minute we made it important that either they answer\ncorrectly or not all\u2026 They all begin to answer \u201cNot at all,\u201d you see.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So this is your little not-I that was coming along and\nhollerin\u2019 what?  \u201cAre you sure?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(Now I understand?)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Right. You interpret correctly? Are you sure, Darrol? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

(chuckles)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[from Marsha\u00a0\u00a0 So what this is referring to is the not-I\u2019s within that make us doubt ourselves.\u00a0 I doubted my ability to sing and play music and when I began to have a lot of success in music, my father was never impressed or appreciated the effort I put into the quest.\u00a0 Trying to get attention and approval from him was an impossible effort as was trying \u201cplease\u201d him.\u00a0\u00a0 He had a whoppin\u2019 lot of not\u2019I\u2019s in him which, of course, I finally come to realize.\u00a0<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dr. Bob said many times that there are no mistakes or failures, only what doesn\u2019t work.\u00a0 And we have in music what we call \u201cwoodshedding\u201d and also a \u201cno mistake\u201d day.\u00a0 So when I feel a need to be creative, I will sit at the piano and improvise \u2013 no goals.\u00a0\u00a0 Wonderful melodies start to emerge.\u00a0 So fun!]<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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